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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	vineetg@rivosinc.com, heiko@sntech.de, slewis@rivosinc.com,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@rivosinc.com>,
	Celeste Liu <coelacanthus@outlook.com>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	dram <dramforever@live.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] RISC-V: hwprobe: Add support for RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 21:25:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+1NvsLlbo8HvV5w@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230206201455.1790329-4-evan@rivosinc.com>

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On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 12:14:52PM -0800, Evan Green wrote:
> From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> 
> We have an implicit set of base behaviors that userspace depends on,
> which are mostly defined in various ISA specifications.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
> ---
> 
> (no changes since v1)
> 
>  Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst       | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>  arch/riscv/include/asm/hwprobe.h      |  2 +-
>  arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/hwprobe.h |  6 +++++-
>  arch/riscv/kernel/sys_riscv.c         | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst b/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> index 97771090e972..ce186967861f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> @@ -35,3 +35,19 @@ The following keys are defined:
>    specifications.
>  * :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_MIMPLID:: Contains the value of :mimplid:, as per the ISA
>    specifications.
> +* :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_BASE_BEHAVIOR:: A bitmask containing the base user-visible
> +  behavior that this kernel supports.  The following base user ABIs are defined:
> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA:: Support for rv32ima or rv64ima, as
> +      defined by version 2.2 of the user ISA and version 1.10 of the privileged
> +      ISA, with the following known exceptions (more exceptions may be added,
> +      but only if it can be demonstrated that the user ABI is not broken):
> +        * The :fence.i: instruction cannot be directly executed by userspace
> +          programs (it may still be executed in userspace via a
> +          kernel-controlled mechanism such as the vDSO).

I don't really do the whole rst thing at all, are we able to have
newlines between list items? If we can, I think one would go nicely here.

> +* :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_IMA_EXT_0:: A bitmask containing the extensions that are
> +  compatible with the :RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA: base system behavior.

Why do we specifically care if they're compatible with IMA?
What's the "fear" here?

> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD:: The F and D extensions are supported, as defined

Also, is this IMA and FD thing a kinda commitment to only supporting
hardware that has IMA* or IMAFD*
I know that's what we do now, but only under the hood?
As per usual, I'm probably missing something. What is it?

> +      by commit cd20cee ("FMIN/FMAX now implement minimumNumber/maximumNumber,
> +      not minNum/maxNum") of the RISC-V ISA manual.
> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_C:: The C extension is supported, as defined by
> +      version 2.2 of the RISC-V ISA manual.

See, this seems to be how we have to treat specs, list the exact
versions! I don't even have to look to know that this was in the v1 ;)


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From: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
To: Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	vineetg@rivosinc.com, heiko@sntech.de, slewis@rivosinc.com,
	Albert Ou <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	Andrew Bresticker <abrestic@rivosinc.com>,
	Celeste Liu <coelacanthus@outlook.com>,
	Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	dram <dramforever@live.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] RISC-V: hwprobe: Add support for RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 21:25:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+1NvsLlbo8HvV5w@spud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230206201455.1790329-4-evan@rivosinc.com>


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On Mon, Feb 06, 2023 at 12:14:52PM -0800, Evan Green wrote:
> From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> 
> We have an implicit set of base behaviors that userspace depends on,
> which are mostly defined in various ISA specifications.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@rivosinc.com>
> Signed-off-by: Evan Green <evan@rivosinc.com>
> ---
> 
> (no changes since v1)
> 
>  Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst       | 16 ++++++++++++++++
>  arch/riscv/include/asm/hwprobe.h      |  2 +-
>  arch/riscv/include/uapi/asm/hwprobe.h |  6 +++++-
>  arch/riscv/kernel/sys_riscv.c         | 23 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>  4 files changed, 45 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst b/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> index 97771090e972..ce186967861f 100644
> --- a/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/riscv/hwprobe.rst
> @@ -35,3 +35,19 @@ The following keys are defined:
>    specifications.
>  * :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_MIMPLID:: Contains the value of :mimplid:, as per the ISA
>    specifications.
> +* :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_BASE_BEHAVIOR:: A bitmask containing the base user-visible
> +  behavior that this kernel supports.  The following base user ABIs are defined:
> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA:: Support for rv32ima or rv64ima, as
> +      defined by version 2.2 of the user ISA and version 1.10 of the privileged
> +      ISA, with the following known exceptions (more exceptions may be added,
> +      but only if it can be demonstrated that the user ABI is not broken):
> +        * The :fence.i: instruction cannot be directly executed by userspace
> +          programs (it may still be executed in userspace via a
> +          kernel-controlled mechanism such as the vDSO).

I don't really do the whole rst thing at all, are we able to have
newlines between list items? If we can, I think one would go nicely here.

> +* :RISCV_HWPROBE_KEY_IMA_EXT_0:: A bitmask containing the extensions that are
> +  compatible with the :RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA: base system behavior.

Why do we specifically care if they're compatible with IMA?
What's the "fear" here?

> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_FD:: The F and D extensions are supported, as defined

Also, is this IMA and FD thing a kinda commitment to only supporting
hardware that has IMA* or IMAFD*
I know that's what we do now, but only under the hood?
As per usual, I'm probably missing something. What is it?

> +      by commit cd20cee ("FMIN/FMAX now implement minimumNumber/maximumNumber,
> +      not minNum/maxNum") of the RISC-V ISA manual.
> +    * :RISCV_HWPROBE_IMA_C:: The C extension is supported, as defined by
> +      version 2.2 of the RISC-V ISA manual.

See, this seems to be how we have to treat specs, list the exact
versions! I don't even have to look to know that this was in the v1 ;)


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-15 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-06 20:14 [PATCH v2 0/6] RISC-V Hardware Probing User Interface Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] RISC-V: Move struct riscv_cpuinfo to new header Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-14 21:38   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-14 21:38     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-14 21:57     ` Evan Green
2023-02-14 21:57       ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] RISC-V: Add a syscall for HW probing Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-07  6:13   ` Greg KH
2023-02-07  6:13     ` Greg KH
2023-02-07  6:32     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-07  6:32       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-09 17:09       ` Evan Green
2023-02-09 17:09         ` Evan Green
2023-02-09 17:13         ` Greg KH
2023-02-09 17:13           ` Greg KH
2023-02-09 17:22           ` Jessica Clarke
2023-02-09 17:22             ` Jessica Clarke
2023-02-10  6:48             ` Greg KH
2023-02-10  6:48               ` Greg KH
2023-02-09 18:41           ` Evan Green
2023-02-09 18:41             ` Evan Green
2023-02-10  6:50             ` Greg KH
2023-02-10  6:50               ` Greg KH
2023-02-07 23:16   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-07 23:16     ` kernel test robot
2023-02-14 23:51   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-14 23:51     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15  8:04     ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-15  8:04       ` Andrew Jones
2023-02-15 20:49     ` Evan Green
2023-02-15 20:49       ` Evan Green
2023-02-15 21:10       ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 21:10         ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15  9:56   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-15  9:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-15 21:14     ` Evan Green
2023-02-15 21:14       ` Evan Green
2023-02-15 22:43       ` Jessica Clarke
2023-02-15 22:43         ` Jessica Clarke
2023-02-16 13:28         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-16 13:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-16 23:18           ` Evan Green
2023-02-16 23:18             ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] RISC-V: hwprobe: Add support for RISCV_HWPROBE_BASE_BEHAVIOR_IMA Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-08  5:06   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-15 21:25   ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-02-15 21:25     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 22:09   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 22:09     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] dt-bindings: Add RISC-V misaligned access performance Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 21:49   ` Rob Herring
2023-02-06 21:49     ` Rob Herring
2023-02-07 17:05   ` Rob Herring
2023-02-07 17:05     ` Rob Herring
2023-02-08 12:45     ` David Laight
2023-02-08 12:45       ` David Laight
2023-02-09 16:51       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-09 16:51         ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-28 14:56         ` Rob Herring
2023-02-28 14:56           ` Rob Herring
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-14 21:26     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 20:50     ` Evan Green
2023-02-15 20:50       ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] RISC-V: hwprobe: Support probing of " Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-07  7:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-07  7:02     ` kernel test robot
2023-02-15 21:57   ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-15 21:57     ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-18  0:15     ` Evan Green
2023-02-18  0:15       ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] selftests: Test the new RISC-V hwprobe interface Evan Green
2023-02-06 20:14   ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 21:27   ` Mark Brown
2023-02-06 21:27     ` Mark Brown
2023-02-09 18:44     ` Evan Green
2023-02-09 18:44       ` Evan Green
2023-02-06 21:11 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] RISC-V Hardware Probing User Interface Jessica Clarke
2023-02-06 21:11   ` Jessica Clarke
2023-02-06 22:47   ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2023-02-06 22:47     ` Heinrich Schuchardt
2023-02-09 16:56     ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-09 16:56       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2023-02-06 22:32 ` Conor Dooley
2023-02-06 22:32   ` Conor Dooley

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