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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	cocci@inria.fr, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] -funsigned-char, x86: make struct p4_event_bind::cntr signed array
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:17:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1kzUMzFdMiHpEnF@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1ku+jfRAyezq6Nz@zx2c4.com>

+Cc: Rasmus as he has done a lot regarding library stuff and optimizations and
     he knows Coccinelle (to some extent as far as I can tell).

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 02:58:34PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 03:50:25AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > The traditional objdump comparison does work, though. It produces a good
> 
> Another thing that appears to work well is just using Coccinelle
> scripts. I've had some success just scrolling through the results of:
> 
>     @@
>     char c;
>     expression E;
>     @@
>     (
>     * E > c
>     |
>     * E >= c
>     |
>     * E < c
>     |
>     * E <= c
>     )
> 
> That also triggers on explicitly signed chars, and examining those
> reveals that quite a bit of code in the tree already does do the right
> thing, which is good.
> 
> From looking at this and objdump output, it looks like most naked-char
> usage that isn't for strings is actually already assuming it's unsigned,
> using it as a byte. I'll continue to churn, and I'm sure I'll miss a few
> things here and there, but all and all, I don't think this is looking as
> terrible as I initially feared.
> 
> I'm CC'ing the Coccinelle people to see if they have any nice ideas on
> improvements. Specifically, the thing we're trying to identify is:
> 
>   - Usage of vanilla `char`, without a `signed` or `unsigned` qualifier,
>     where:
>   - It's not being used for characters; and
>   - It's doing something that assumes it is signed, such as various
>     types of comparisons or decrements.
> 
> LWN wrote a summary of the general problem, in case that helps describe
> what would be useful: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/911914/f90c2ed1af23cbc4/
> 
> Any nice Cocci tricks for this?

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	cocci@inria.fr, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, masahiroy@kernel.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
Subject: Re: [cocci] [PATCH -mm] -funsigned-char, x86: make struct p4_event_bind::cntr signed array
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 16:17:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y1kzUMzFdMiHpEnF@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y1ku+jfRAyezq6Nz@zx2c4.com>

+Cc: Rasmus as he has done a lot regarding library stuff and optimizations and
     he knows Coccinelle (to some extent as far as I can tell).

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 02:58:34PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 03:50:25AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > The traditional objdump comparison does work, though. It produces a good
> 
> Another thing that appears to work well is just using Coccinelle
> scripts. I've had some success just scrolling through the results of:
> 
>     @@
>     char c;
>     expression E;
>     @@
>     (
>     * E > c
>     |
>     * E >= c
>     |
>     * E < c
>     |
>     * E <= c
>     )
> 
> That also triggers on explicitly signed chars, and examining those
> reveals that quite a bit of code in the tree already does do the right
> thing, which is good.
> 
> From looking at this and objdump output, it looks like most naked-char
> usage that isn't for strings is actually already assuming it's unsigned,
> using it as a byte. I'll continue to churn, and I'm sure I'll miss a few
> things here and there, but all and all, I don't think this is looking as
> terrible as I initially feared.
> 
> I'm CC'ing the Coccinelle people to see if they have any nice ideas on
> improvements. Specifically, the thing we're trying to identify is:
> 
>   - Usage of vanilla `char`, without a `signed` or `unsigned` qualifier,
>     where:
>   - It's not being used for characters; and
>   - It's doing something that assumes it is signed, such as various
>     types of comparisons or decrements.
> 
> LWN wrote a summary of the general problem, in case that helps describe
> what would be useful: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/911914/f90c2ed1af23cbc4/
> 
> Any nice Cocci tricks for this?

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-26 13:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-20  0:03 + kbuild-treat-char-as-always-unsigned.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch Andrew Morton
2022-10-20  9:43 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2022-10-20  9:49 ` [PATCH -mm] -funsigned-char, x86: make struct p4_event_bind::cntr signed array Alexey Dobriyan
2022-10-20  9:56   ` [PATCH -mm] -funsigned-char, namei: delete cast in lookup_one_common() Alexey Dobriyan
2022-10-20 16:28   ` [PATCH -mm] -funsigned-char, x86: make struct p4_event_bind::cntr signed array Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-20 17:14     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 17:33       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-20 17:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 18:57           ` Kees Cook
2022-10-20 19:39             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 20:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 21:34                 ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-10-20 22:46                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-21  6:48                 ` Greg KH
2022-10-21  7:24                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-21  7:36                     ` Greg KH
2022-10-26  1:50             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-26 12:58               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-26 12:58                 ` [cocci] " Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-26 13:17                 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2022-10-26 13:17                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2022-11-02 17:17                 ` Julia Lawall
2022-11-03  0:08                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-03  6:31                     ` Julia Lawall
2022-11-03 12:45                     ` Julia Lawall
2022-11-03 12:47                       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-11-03 12:57                         ` Julia Lawall
2022-11-03 14:07                           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-24 15:44         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-21  5:59       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2022-10-21 17:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21 17:23           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 16:24 ` + kbuild-treat-char-as-always-unsigned.patch added to mm-nonmm-unstable branch Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-10-20 21:12   ` Andrew Morton
2022-10-20 21:13     ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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