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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Re: [PATCH] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:53:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y34XvmtHfb4ZwopN@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8f844a5-0910-d19a-5aea-df7a1d83b1d3@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 01:49:41PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> Am 23.11.22 um 13:46 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 11:06:55AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > 
> > > > Maybe a GFP flag to set the page reference count to zero or something
> > > > like this?
> > > Hm yeah that might work. I'm not sure what it will all break though?
> > > And we'd need to make sure that underflowing the page refcount dies in
> > > a backtrace.
> > Mucking with the refcount like this to protect against crazy out of
> > tree drives seems horrible..
> 
> Well not only out of tree drivers. The intree KVM got that horrible
> wrong as well, those where the latest guys complaining about it.

kvm was taking refs on special PTEs? That seems really unlikely?

> > The WARN_ON(pag_count(p) != 1) seems like a reasonable thing to do
> > though, though you must combine this with the special PTE flag..
> 
> That's not sufficient. The pages are released much later than things
> actually go wrong. In most cases this WARN_ON here won't hit.

How so? As long as the page is mapped into the PTE there is no issue
with corruption. If dmabuf checks the refcount after it does the unmap
mapping range it should catch any bogus pin that might be confused
about address coherency.

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
Cc: "Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"DRI Development" <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Intel Graphics Development" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	"Suren Baghdasaryan" <surenb@google.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Linaro-mm-sig] Re: [PATCH] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 08:53:18 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y34XvmtHfb4ZwopN@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8f844a5-0910-d19a-5aea-df7a1d83b1d3@gmail.com>

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 01:49:41PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> Am 23.11.22 um 13:46 schrieb Jason Gunthorpe:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 11:06:55AM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > 
> > > > Maybe a GFP flag to set the page reference count to zero or something
> > > > like this?
> > > Hm yeah that might work. I'm not sure what it will all break though?
> > > And we'd need to make sure that underflowing the page refcount dies in
> > > a backtrace.
> > Mucking with the refcount like this to protect against crazy out of
> > tree drives seems horrible..
> 
> Well not only out of tree drivers. The intree KVM got that horrible
> wrong as well, those where the latest guys complaining about it.

kvm was taking refs on special PTEs? That seems really unlikely?

> > The WARN_ON(pag_count(p) != 1) seems like a reasonable thing to do
> > though, though you must combine this with the special PTE flag..
> 
> That's not sufficient. The pages are released much later than things
> actually go wrong. In most cases this WARN_ON here won't hit.

How so? As long as the page is mapped into the PTE there is no issue
with corruption. If dmabuf checks the refcount after it does the unmap
mapping range it should catch any bogus pin that might be confused
about address coherency.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-23 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22 17:08 [PATCH] dma-buf: Require VM_PFNMAP vma for mmap Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 17:08 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 17:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 18:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 18:08   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:08     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:08     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 18:50     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 18:50       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:29       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:29         ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:29         ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:34         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:50           ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:50             ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-22 19:50             ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:06             ` Christian König
2022-11-23  9:06               ` Christian König
2022-11-23  9:06               ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-11-23  9:30               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:30                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:30                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:39                 ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Christian König
2022-11-23  9:39                   ` Christian König
2022-11-23  9:39                   ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-11-23 10:06                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 10:06                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 10:06                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 12:46                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 12:46                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 12:49                       ` Christian König
2022-11-23 12:49                         ` Christian König
2022-11-23 12:49                         ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-11-23 12:53                         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-11-23 12:53                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 13:12                           ` Christian König
2022-11-23 13:12                             ` Christian König
2022-11-23 13:12                             ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-11-23 13:28                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 13:28                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 14:28                               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:28                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:28                                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 15:04                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 15:04                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 16:22                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:22                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:22                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:34                               ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:34                                 ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 14:34                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 15:08                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 15:08                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 15:15                                   ` Christian König
2022-11-23 15:15                                     ` [Intel-gfx] " Christian König
2022-11-23 15:15                                     ` Christian König
2022-11-23 16:26                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:26                                       ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:26                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23 16:26                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-23 16:26                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-11-22 19:43 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for " Patchwork
2022-11-22 20:08 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2022-11-23  8:07 ` [PATCH] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-11-23  8:07   ` [Intel-gfx] " Thomas Zimmermann
2022-11-23  8:07   ` Thomas Zimmermann
2022-11-23  9:33   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:33     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:33     ` [Intel-gfx] " Daniel Vetter
2022-11-23  9:58 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure for " Patchwork

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