From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>,
Vadim Fedorenko <vfedorenko@novek.ru>,
Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Vadim Fedorenko <vadfed@fb.com>,
"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] ptp_ocp: implement DPLL ops
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 10:32:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y5MAmQW+xvxdxjey@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221208163634.707c6e07@kernel.org>
Fri, Dec 09, 2022 at 01:36:34AM CET, kuba@kernel.org wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 12:22:09 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >To what practical benefit? Where do we draw the line? Do you want
>> >PTP clocks to also be auxdevs? DPLL lives in netdev, we don't have
>> >to complicate things. auxdev is a Conway's law solution.
>>
>> Auxdev infra is quite simple to implement, I'm not sure what do you mean
>> by complicating thing here.
>
>You didn't answer my question - what's the benefit?
>We're not faced with A or B choice. We have a A or nothing choice.
>Doing nothing is easy.
>
>> >mlx5 already looks like sausage meat, it's already minced so you can
>> >fit it there quite easily, but don't force it on non-enterprise devices.
>>
>> Not forcing, just suggesting. It's a low-hanging fruit, why not reach
>> it?
>
>What is the fruit?
>
>> >There is non 1:1 relationship with a bus device and subsystem in Linux,
>> >LMK when you convinced Greg otherwise.
>>
>> Sure there is not. But maybe that is due to the simple fact that auxdev
>> was introduces, what, 2 years back? My point is, we are introducing new
>> subsystem, wouldn't it be nice to start it clean?
>
>Still not getting what you think is clean.. Making all driver-facing
>objects in the kernel be a fake bus-device?!
Nevermind.
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Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-29 21:37 [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] dpll: add dpll_attr/dpll_pin_attr helper classes Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 15:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 16:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 16:23 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-23 16:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-23 16:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-02 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-02 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 16:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 16:37 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 12:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 12:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 14:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 14:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20221202212206.3619bd5f@kernel.org>
2022-12-05 10:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-05 10:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-06 0:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06 0:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06 8:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-06 8:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-06 17:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-06 17:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 13:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 13:10 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 16:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 16:59 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 8:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 8:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 16:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 16:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 17:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 17:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 9:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 9:29 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-12 13:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-12 13:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-13 18:08 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-13 18:08 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-14 7:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-14 7:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] dpll: documentation on DPLL subsystem interface Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2022-12-02 12:43 ` kernel test robot
2022-12-19 9:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2022-12-19 9:13 ` Paolo Abeni
2023-01-12 13:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-12 13:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] ptp_ocp: implement DPLL ops Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko
2022-11-30 8:30 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-30 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 12:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 12:48 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 14:39 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 14:39 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 16:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 16:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 0:35 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 0:35 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 2:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 2:33 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 13:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 13:19 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20221207090524.3f562eeb@kernel.org>
2022-12-08 11:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 0:36 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 9:32 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2022-11-30 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Jiri Pirko
2022-11-30 12:32 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-02 16:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-02 16:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 2:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 2:47 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 14:09 ` netdev.dump
2022-12-07 14:09 ` netdev.dump
2022-12-07 23:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-07 23:21 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 11:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 11:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 0:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 0:39 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 0:56 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-09 0:56 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 18:08 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-08 18:08 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-09 11:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 11:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 14:09 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-09 14:09 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-09 16:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 16:31 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-09 17:11 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-09 17:11 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2022-12-12 13:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-12 13:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-09 14:43 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-09 14:43 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-09 16:30 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-09 16:30 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-10 10:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-10 10:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-10 14:28 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-10 14:28 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <645a5bfd-0092-2f39-0ff2-3ffb27ccf8fe@machnikowski.net>
2023-01-11 14:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 14:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 14:40 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2023-01-11 14:40 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 15:54 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2023-01-11 15:54 ` Maciek Machnikowski
2023-01-11 16:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 16:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-10 20:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-10 20:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-11 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 14:16 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 14:16 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 15:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 15:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-11 16:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-11 16:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 12:15 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-12 12:15 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-12 14:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 14:43 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 0:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-09 0:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-07 14:51 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-07 14:51 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <20221207091946.3115742f@kernel.org>
2022-12-08 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 0:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-12-08 18:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 18:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 0:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 0:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 11:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 11:58 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-08 23:05 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-08 23:05 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2022-12-09 10:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2022-12-09 10:01 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 12:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-12 12:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz
2023-01-12 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-01-12 19:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-01-12 19:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
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