From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> Cc: "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>, Vadim Fedorenko <vfedorenko@novek.ru>, Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Vadim Fedorenko <vadfed@fb.com>, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, "Olech, Milena" <milena.olech@intel.com>, "Michalik, Michal" <michal.michalik@intel.com> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 08:59:41 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20221207085941.3b56bc8c@kernel.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <Y5CQ0qddxuUQg8R8@nanopsycho> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:10:42 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote: > >> Why do we need this association at all? > > > >Someone someday may want netns delegation and if we don't have the > >support from the start we may break backward compat introducing it. > > Hmm. Can you imagine a usecase? Running DPLL control in a namespace / container. I mean - I generally think netns is overused, but yes, it's what containers use, so I think someone may want to develop their timer controller SW in as a container? > Link to devlink instance btw might be a problem. In case of mlx5, one > dpll instance is going to be created for 2 (or more) PFs. 1 per ConnectX > ASIC as there is only 1 clock there. And PF devlinks can come and go, > does not make sense to link it to any of them. If only we stuck to the "one devlink instance per ASIC", huh? :) > Thinking about it a bit more, DPLL itself has no network notion. The > special case is SyncE pin, which is linked to netdevice. Just a small > part of dpll device. And the netdevice already has notion of netns. > Isn't that enough? So we can't use devlink or netdev. Hm. So what do we do? Make DPLLs only visible in init_net? And require init_net admin? And when someone comes asking we add an explicit "move to netns" command to DPLL?
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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org> To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> Cc: "Kubalewski, Arkadiusz" <arkadiusz.kubalewski@intel.com>, Vadim Fedorenko <vfedorenko@novek.ru>, Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, "netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Vadim Fedorenko <vadfed@fb.com>, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, "Olech, Milena" <milena.olech@intel.com>, "Michalik, Michal" <michal.michalik@intel.com> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2022 08:59:41 -0800 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20221207085941.3b56bc8c@kernel.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <Y5CQ0qddxuUQg8R8@nanopsycho> On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 14:10:42 +0100 Jiri Pirko wrote: > >> Why do we need this association at all? > > > >Someone someday may want netns delegation and if we don't have the > >support from the start we may break backward compat introducing it. > > Hmm. Can you imagine a usecase? Running DPLL control in a namespace / container. I mean - I generally think netns is overused, but yes, it's what containers use, so I think someone may want to develop their timer controller SW in as a container? > Link to devlink instance btw might be a problem. In case of mlx5, one > dpll instance is going to be created for 2 (or more) PFs. 1 per ConnectX > ASIC as there is only 1 clock there. And PF devlinks can come and go, > does not make sense to link it to any of them. If only we stuck to the "one devlink instance per ASIC", huh? :) > Thinking about it a bit more, DPLL itself has no network notion. The > special case is SyncE pin, which is linked to netdevice. Just a small > part of dpll device. And the netdevice already has notion of netns. > Isn't that enough? So we can't use devlink or netdev. Hm. So what do we do? Make DPLLs only visible in init_net? And require init_net admin? And when someone comes asking we add an explicit "move to netns" command to DPLL? _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-07 17:00 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 172+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2022-11-29 21:37 [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/4] dpll: add dpll_attr/dpll_pin_attr helper classes Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/4] dpll: Add DPLL framework base functions Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-30 15:21 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 15:21 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 16:23 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 16:23 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-23 16:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-23 16:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-02 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-02 12:28 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 16:37 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 16:37 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 12:39 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 12:39 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 14:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 14:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko [not found] ` <20221202212206.3619bd5f@kernel.org> 2022-12-05 10:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-05 10:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-06 0:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-06 0:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-06 8:50 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-06 8:50 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-06 17:27 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-06 17:27 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 13:10 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 13:10 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 16:59 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message] 2022-12-07 16:59 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 8:14 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 8:14 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 16:33 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 16:33 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 17:05 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 17:05 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 9:29 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 9:29 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 16:19 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-12 13:36 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-12 13:36 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-13 18:08 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-13 18:08 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-14 7:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-14 7:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/4] dpll: documentation on DPLL subsystem interface Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko 2022-12-02 12:43 ` kernel test robot 2022-12-19 9:13 ` Paolo Abeni 2022-12-19 9:13 ` Paolo Abeni 2023-01-12 13:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-12 13:45 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-11-29 21:37 ` [RFC PATCH v4 4/4] ptp_ocp: implement DPLL ops Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-29 21:37 ` Vadim Fedorenko 2022-11-30 8:30 ` kernel test robot 2022-11-30 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 12:48 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 12:48 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 14:39 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 14:39 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 16:20 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 16:20 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 0:35 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 0:35 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 2:33 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 2:33 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 13:19 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 13:19 ` Jiri Pirko [not found] ` <20221207090524.3f562eeb@kernel.org> 2022-12-08 11:22 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 0:36 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 9:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 12:32 ` [RFC PATCH v4 0/4] Create common DPLL/clock configuration API Jiri Pirko 2022-11-30 12:32 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 11:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-02 16:12 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-02 16:12 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 2:47 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 2:47 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 14:09 ` netdev.dump 2022-12-07 14:09 ` netdev.dump 2022-12-07 23:21 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-07 23:21 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 11:28 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 11:28 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 0:39 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 0:39 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 0:56 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-09 0:56 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 18:08 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-08 18:08 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-09 11:07 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 11:07 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 14:09 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-09 14:09 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-09 16:31 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 16:31 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-09 17:11 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-09 17:11 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2022-12-12 13:58 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-12 13:58 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-09 14:43 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-09 14:43 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-09 16:30 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-09 16:30 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-10 10:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-10 10:54 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-10 14:28 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-10 14:28 ` Jiri Pirko [not found] ` <645a5bfd-0092-2f39-0ff2-3ffb27ccf8fe@machnikowski.net> 2023-01-11 14:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 14:17 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 14:40 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2023-01-11 14:40 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 15:54 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2023-01-11 15:54 ` Maciek Machnikowski 2023-01-11 16:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 16:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-10 20:05 ` Jakub Kicinski 2023-01-10 20:05 ` Jakub Kicinski 2023-01-11 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-11 8:19 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-11 14:16 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 14:16 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 15:04 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-11 15:04 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 15:30 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-11 16:14 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-11 16:14 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-12 12:15 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-12 12:15 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-12 14:43 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-12 14:43 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 0:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-09 0:46 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-07 14:51 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-07 14:51 ` Jiri Pirko [not found] ` <20221207091946.3115742f@kernel.org> 2022-12-08 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 12:02 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 0:54 ` Jakub Kicinski 2022-12-08 18:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 18:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 0:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 0:27 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 11:58 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 11:58 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-08 23:05 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-08 23:05 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2022-12-09 10:01 ` Jiri Pirko 2022-12-09 10:01 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-12 12:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-12 12:23 ` Kubalewski, Arkadiusz 2023-01-12 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-12 14:50 ` Jiri Pirko 2023-01-12 19:09 ` Jakub Kicinski 2023-01-12 19:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
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