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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-mips@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matteo Croce <mcroce@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: Fix struct page layout on 32-bit systems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:15:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YH0uLsnzdE9ya6kw@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210419063441.GA18787@lst.de>

Hi Christoph,

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:34:41AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 04:27:55PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 08:08:32PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > See below patch.  Where I swap32 the dma address to satisfy
> > > page->compound having bit zero cleared. (It is the simplest fix I could
> > > come up with).
> > 
> > I think this is slightly simpler, and as a bonus code that assumes the
> > old layout won't compile.
> 
> So, why do we even do this crappy overlay of a dma address?  This just
> all seems like a giant hack.  Random subsystems should not just steal
> a few struct page fields as that just turns into the desasters like the
> one we've seen here or probably something worse next time.

The page pool API was using page->private in the past to store these kind of
info. That caused a problem to begin with, since it would fail  on 32-bit
systems with 64bit DMA.  We had a similar discussion on the past but decided
struct page is the right place to store that [1].

Another advantage is that we can now use the information from the networking 
subsystem and enable recycling of SKBs and SKB fragments, by using the stored 
metadata of struct page [2].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20190207.132519.1698007650891404763.davem@davemloft.net/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20210409223801.104657-1-mcroce@linux.microsoft.com/

Cheers
/Ilias

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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"linux-mips@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Matteo Croce <mcroce@linux.microsoft.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: Fix struct page layout on 32-bit systems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:15:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YH0uLsnzdE9ya6kw@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210419063441.GA18787@lst.de>

Hi Christoph,

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:34:41AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 04:27:55PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 08:08:32PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > See below patch.  Where I swap32 the dma address to satisfy
> > > page->compound having bit zero cleared. (It is the simplest fix I could
> > > come up with).
> > 
> > I think this is slightly simpler, and as a bonus code that assumes the
> > old layout won't compile.
> 
> So, why do we even do this crappy overlay of a dma address?  This just
> all seems like a giant hack.  Random subsystems should not just steal
> a few struct page fields as that just turns into the desasters like the
> one we've seen here or probably something worse next time.

The page pool API was using page->private in the past to store these kind of
info. That caused a problem to begin with, since it would fail  on 32-bit
systems with 64bit DMA.  We had a similar discussion on the past but decided
struct page is the right place to store that [1].

Another advantage is that we can now use the information from the networking 
subsystem and enable recycling of SKBs and SKB fragments, by using the stored 
metadata of struct page [2].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20190207.132519.1698007650891404763.davem@davemloft.net/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20210409223801.104657-1-mcroce@linux.microsoft.com/

Cheers
/Ilias

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From: Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	 "linux-mips@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mips@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matteo Croce <mcroce@linux.microsoft.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] mm: Fix struct page layout on 32-bit systems
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 10:15:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YH0uLsnzdE9ya6kw@apalos.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210419063441.GA18787@lst.de>

Hi Christoph,

On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 08:34:41AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 04:27:55PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 08:08:32PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > See below patch.  Where I swap32 the dma address to satisfy
> > > page->compound having bit zero cleared. (It is the simplest fix I could
> > > come up with).
> > 
> > I think this is slightly simpler, and as a bonus code that assumes the
> > old layout won't compile.
> 
> So, why do we even do this crappy overlay of a dma address?  This just
> all seems like a giant hack.  Random subsystems should not just steal
> a few struct page fields as that just turns into the desasters like the
> one we've seen here or probably something worse next time.

The page pool API was using page->private in the past to store these kind of
info. That caused a problem to begin with, since it would fail  on 32-bit
systems with 64bit DMA.  We had a similar discussion on the past but decided
struct page is the right place to store that [1].

Another advantage is that we can now use the information from the networking 
subsystem and enable recycling of SKBs and SKB fragments, by using the stored 
metadata of struct page [2].

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20190207.132519.1698007650891404763.davem@davemloft.net/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20210409223801.104657-1-mcroce@linux.microsoft.com/

Cheers
/Ilias

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Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-10 20:52 [PATCH 0/1] Fix struct page layout on 32-bit systems Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-10 20:52 ` Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-10 20:52 ` Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-10 20:52 ` [PATCH 1/1] mm: " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-10 20:52   ` Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-10 20:52   ` Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-04-11  9:43   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-11  9:43     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-11  9:43     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-11 10:33     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-11 10:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-11 10:33       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-12  1:15       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-12  1:15         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-12  1:15         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14  8:10         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14  8:10           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14  8:10           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14 11:50           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 11:50             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 11:50             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 11:56             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-14 11:56               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-14 11:56               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-14 15:52             ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:52               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:52               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 15:52               ` David Laight
2021-04-14 19:13             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14 19:13               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14 19:13               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-14 21:35               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 21:35                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 21:35                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-14 21:56                 ` David Laight
2021-04-14 21:56                   ` David Laight
2021-04-14 21:56                   ` David Laight
2021-04-14 21:56                   ` David Laight
2021-04-15 18:08                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-15 18:08                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-15 18:08                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-15 18:08                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-15 18:21                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 18:21                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 18:21                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 18:21                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 21:11                       ` David Laight
2021-04-15 21:11                         ` David Laight
2021-04-15 21:11                         ` David Laight
2021-04-15 21:11                         ` David Laight
2021-04-15 22:22                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 22:22                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 22:22                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-15 22:22                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16  7:32                           ` David Laight
2021-04-16  7:32                             ` David Laight
2021-04-16  7:32                             ` David Laight
2021-04-16  7:32                             ` David Laight
2021-04-16 11:05                             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 11:05                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 11:05                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 11:05                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 15:27                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 15:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 15:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 15:27                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-16 17:08                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-16 17:08                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-16 17:08                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-16 17:08                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2021-04-17  3:19                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17  3:19                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17  3:19                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17  3:19                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17 10:31                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 10:31                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 10:31                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 10:31                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 13:56                         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17 13:56                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17 13:56                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17 13:56                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-17 17:30                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 17:30                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 17:30                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 17:30                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-04-17 10:59                       ` David Laight
2021-04-17 10:59                         ` David Laight
2021-04-17 10:59                         ` David Laight
2021-04-17 10:59                         ` David Laight
2021-04-19  6:34                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-19  6:34                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-19  6:34                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-19  6:34                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-04-19  7:15                         ` Ilias Apalodimas [this message]
2021-04-19  7:15                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-19  7:15                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-19  7:15                           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2021-04-12 18:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-12 18:23       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-12 18:23       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-04-13  8:21       ` David Laight
2021-04-13  8:21         ` David Laight
2021-04-13  8:21         ` David Laight
2021-04-13  8:21         ` David Laight

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