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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@us.ibm.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] blk-mq: fix blk_mq_alloc_request_hctx
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 07:59:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YN0FXrcwXfAwGU6w@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89081624-fedd-aa94-1ba2-9a137708a1f1@suse.de>

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:46:35PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 6/30/21 8:59 PM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > Shouldn't we rather modify the tagset to only refer to
> > > > > > the current online
> > > > > > CPUs _only_, thereby never submit a connect request for hctx with only
> > > > > > offline CPUs?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then you may setup very less io queues, and performance may suffer even
> > > > > though lots of CPUs become online later.
> > > > > ;
> > > > Only if we stay with the reduced number of I/O queues. Which is
> > > > not what I'm
> > > > proposing; I'd rather prefer to connect and disconnect queues
> > > > from the cpu
> > > > hotplug handler. For starters we could even trigger a reset once
> > > > the first
> > > > cpu within a hctx is onlined.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, that need one big/complicated patchset, but not see any advantages
> > > over this simple approach.
> > 
> > I tend to agree with Ming here.
> 
> Actually, Daniel and me came to a slightly different idea: use cpu hotplug
> notifier.
> Thing is, blk-mq already has cpu hotplug notifier, which should ensure that
> no I/O is pending during cpu hotplug.

Why should we ensure that for non-managed irq?

> If we now add a nvme cpu hotplug notifier which essentially kicks off a
> reset once all cpu in a hctx are offline the reset logic will rearrange the
> queues to match the current cpu layout.
> And when the cpus are getting onlined we'll do another reset.
> 
> Daniel is currently preparing a patch; let's see how it goes.

What is the advantage of that big change over this simple way?

Thanks, 
Ming


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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Daniel Wagner <dwagner@suse.de>,
	Wen Xiong <wenxiong@us.ibm.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] blk-mq: fix blk_mq_alloc_request_hctx
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 07:59:26 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YN0FXrcwXfAwGU6w@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <89081624-fedd-aa94-1ba2-9a137708a1f1@suse.de>

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 09:46:35PM +0200, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 6/30/21 8:59 PM, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > Shouldn't we rather modify the tagset to only refer to
> > > > > > the current online
> > > > > > CPUs _only_, thereby never submit a connect request for hctx with only
> > > > > > offline CPUs?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Then you may setup very less io queues, and performance may suffer even
> > > > > though lots of CPUs become online later.
> > > > > ;
> > > > Only if we stay with the reduced number of I/O queues. Which is
> > > > not what I'm
> > > > proposing; I'd rather prefer to connect and disconnect queues
> > > > from the cpu
> > > > hotplug handler. For starters we could even trigger a reset once
> > > > the first
> > > > cpu within a hctx is onlined.
> > > 
> > > Yeah, that need one big/complicated patchset, but not see any advantages
> > > over this simple approach.
> > 
> > I tend to agree with Ming here.
> 
> Actually, Daniel and me came to a slightly different idea: use cpu hotplug
> notifier.
> Thing is, blk-mq already has cpu hotplug notifier, which should ensure that
> no I/O is pending during cpu hotplug.

Why should we ensure that for non-managed irq?

> If we now add a nvme cpu hotplug notifier which essentially kicks off a
> reset once all cpu in a hctx are offline the reset logic will rearrange the
> queues to match the current cpu layout.
> And when the cpus are getting onlined we'll do another reset.
> 
> Daniel is currently preparing a patch; let's see how it goes.

What is the advantage of that big change over this simple way?

Thanks, 
Ming


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-30 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-29  7:49 [PATCH 0/2] blk-mq: fix blk_mq_alloc_request_hctx Ming Lei
2021-06-29  7:49 ` Ming Lei
2021-06-29  7:49 ` [PATCH 1/2] blk-mq: not deactivate hctx if the device doesn't use managed irq Ming Lei
2021-06-29  7:49   ` Ming Lei
2021-06-29 12:39   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-29 12:39     ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-29 14:17     ` Ming Lei
2021-06-29 14:17       ` Ming Lei
2021-06-29 15:49   ` John Garry
2021-06-29 15:49     ` John Garry
2021-06-30  0:32     ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  0:32       ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  9:25       ` John Garry
2021-06-30  9:25         ` John Garry
2021-07-01  9:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-01  9:52         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-29 23:30   ` Damien Le Moal
2021-06-29 23:30     ` Damien Le Moal
2021-06-30 18:58     ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-06-30 18:58       ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-06-30 21:57       ` Damien Le Moal
2021-06-30 21:57         ` Damien Le Moal
2021-07-01 14:20         ` Keith Busch
2021-07-01 14:20           ` Keith Busch
2021-06-29  7:49 ` [PATCH 2/2] nvme: pass BLK_MQ_F_NOT_USE_MANAGED_IRQ for fc/rdma/tcp/loop Ming Lei
2021-06-29  7:49   ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  8:15   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  8:15     ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  8:47     ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  8:47       ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  8:18 ` [PATCH 0/2] blk-mq: fix blk_mq_alloc_request_hctx Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  8:18   ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  8:42   ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  8:42     ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  9:43     ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  9:43       ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30  9:53       ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30  9:53         ` Ming Lei
2021-06-30 18:59         ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-06-30 18:59           ` Sagi Grimberg
2021-06-30 19:46           ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30 19:46             ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-06-30 23:59             ` Ming Lei [this message]
2021-06-30 23:59               ` Ming Lei
2021-07-01  8:00               ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-07-01  8:00                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2021-07-01  9:13                 ` Ming Lei
2021-07-01  9:13                   ` Ming Lei
2021-07-02  9:47             ` Daniel Wagner
2021-07-02  9:47               ` Daniel Wagner

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