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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 1/3] mm: do not firce global OOM from inside dying tasks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:33:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXAMpxjuV/h2awqG@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c13c739-7282-e6f4-da0a-c0b69e68581e@virtuozzo.com>

s@firce@force@

On Wed 20-10-21 15:12:19, Vasily Averin wrote:
> There is no sense to force global OOM if current task is dying.

This really begs for much more information. Feel free to get an
inspiration from my previous attempt to achieve something similar.
In minimum it is important to mention that the OOM killer is already
handled at the page allocator level for the global OOM and at the
charging level for the memcg one. Both have much more information
about the scope of allocation/charge request. This means that either the
OOM killer has been invoked properly and didn't lead to the allocation
success or it has been skipped because it couldn't have been invoked.
In both cases triggering it from here is pointless and even harmful.

Another argument is that it is more reasonable to let killed task die
rather than hit the oom killer and retry the allocation.

> Signed-off-by: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
>  mm/oom_kill.c | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index 831340e7ad8b..1deef8c7a71b 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -1137,6 +1137,9 @@ void pagefault_out_of_memory(void)
>  	if (mem_cgroup_oom_synchronize(true))
>  		return;
>  
> +	if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> +		return;
> +
>  	if (!mutex_trylock(&oom_lock))
>  		return;
>  	out_of_memory(&oc);
> -- 
> 2.32.0

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov
	<vdavydov.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mel Gorman
	<mgorman-3eNAlZScCAx27rWaFMvyedHuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa
	<penguin-kernel-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kernel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 1/3] mm: do not firce global OOM from inside dying tasks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 14:33:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXAMpxjuV/h2awqG@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c13c739-7282-e6f4-da0a-c0b69e68581e-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>

s@firce@force@

On Wed 20-10-21 15:12:19, Vasily Averin wrote:
> There is no sense to force global OOM if current task is dying.

This really begs for much more information. Feel free to get an
inspiration from my previous attempt to achieve something similar.
In minimum it is important to mention that the OOM killer is already
handled at the page allocator level for the global OOM and at the
charging level for the memcg one. Both have much more information
about the scope of allocation/charge request. This means that either the
OOM killer has been invoked properly and didn't lead to the allocation
success or it has been skipped because it couldn't have been invoked.
In both cases triggering it from here is pointless and even harmful.

Another argument is that it is more reasonable to let killed task die
rather than hit the oom killer and retry the allocation.

> Signed-off-by: Vasily Averin <vvs-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
> ---
>  mm/oom_kill.c | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index 831340e7ad8b..1deef8c7a71b 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -1137,6 +1137,9 @@ void pagefault_out_of_memory(void)
>  	if (mem_cgroup_oom_synchronize(true))
>  		return;
>  
> +	if (fatal_signal_pending(current))
> +		return;
> +
>  	if (!mutex_trylock(&oom_lock))
>  		return;
>  	out_of_memory(&oc);
> -- 
> 2.32.0

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 12:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18  8:13 [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-18  8:13 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18  9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18  9:04   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 10:05   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:05     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:12     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:12       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 11:53     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:53       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <27dc0c49-a0d6-875b-49c6-0ef5c0cc3ac8@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-18 12:27         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 12:27           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 15:07           ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 15:07             ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 16:51             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 16:51               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 17:13               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 18:52             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 18:52               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 19:18               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 19:18                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  5:34                 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:34                   ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:33               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:33                 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  6:42                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  6:42                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:47                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  8:47                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  6:30       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  6:30         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:49         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  8:49           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 10:30           ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 10:30             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 11:54             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 11:54               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 12:04               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 12:04                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 13:26                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 13:26                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 14:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:13                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:19                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 19:09                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 19:09                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:07                       ` [PATCH memcg v4] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:07                         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:43                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20  8:43                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:11                           ` [PATCH memcg RFC 0/3] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:11                             ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                           ` <cover.1634730787.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-20 12:12                             ` [PATCH memcg 1/3] mm: do not firce global OOM from inside " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:12                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:33                               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-10-20 12:33                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 13:52                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 13:52                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:13                             ` [PATCH memcg 2/3] memcg: remove charge forcinig for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:13                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:41                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:41                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:21                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 14:21                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 14:57                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:57                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:20                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-20 15:20                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-21 10:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:03                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:14                             ` [PATCH memcg 3/3] memcg: handle memcg oom failures Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:14                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 13:02                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:46                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 15:46                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 11:49                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 15:05                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 15:05                                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 16:47                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 16:47                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:10                                         ` [PATCH memcg v2 0/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:10                                           ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                         ` <cover.1634889066.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 1/2] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:11                                             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:55                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:55                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 2/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:11                                             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  9:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  9:10                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:18                                               ` [PATCH memcg v3 0/3] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:18                                                 ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                               ` <cover.1634994605.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-23 13:19                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 1/3] mm, oom: pagefault_out_of_memory: don't force global OOM for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:19                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:27                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:27                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 2/3] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:20                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 15:01                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-23 15:01                                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-23 19:15                                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  8:04                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  8:04                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 13:56                                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-26 13:56                                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-26 14:07                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 14:07                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:34                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:34                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 3/3] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:20                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:36                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:36                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-27 22:36                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-27 22:36                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-28  7:22                                                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-28  7:22                                                         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-29  7:46                                                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-29  7:46                                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-29  7:58                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-29  7:58                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-12 23:48                         ` [PATCH memcg v4] " kernel test robot
2021-11-26  4:32                         ` kernel test robot
2021-10-21  8:03   ` [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-21  8:03     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 11:49       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 13:24       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 13:24         ` Vasily Averin

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