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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 2/3] memcg: remove charge forcinig for dying tasks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 16:57:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXAubuMMgNDeguNx@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbda9b6b-3ee5-06ab-9a3b-debf361b55bb@virtuozzo.com>

On Wed 20-10-21 17:21:33, Vasily Averin wrote:
> On 20.10.2021 15:41, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 20-10-21 15:13:46, Vasily Averin wrote:
> >> ToDo: should we keep task_is_dying() in mem_cgroup_out_of_memory() ?
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Vasily Averin <vvs@virtuozzo.com>
> >> ---
> >>  mm/memcontrol.c | 20 +++++++-------------
> >>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> index 6da5020a8656..74a7379dbac1 100644
> >> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> @@ -239,7 +239,7 @@ enum res_type {
> >>  	     iter != NULL;				\
> >>  	     iter = mem_cgroup_iter(NULL, iter, NULL))
> >>  
> >> -static inline bool should_force_charge(void)
> >> +static inline bool task_is_dying(void)
> >>  {
> >>  	return tsk_is_oom_victim(current) || fatal_signal_pending(current) ||
> >>  		(current->flags & PF_EXITING);
> >> @@ -1575,7 +1575,7 @@ static bool mem_cgroup_out_of_memory(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> >>  	 * A few threads which were not waiting at mutex_lock_killable() can
> >>  	 * fail to bail out. Therefore, check again after holding oom_lock.
> >>  	 */
> >> -	ret = should_force_charge() || out_of_memory(&oc);
> >> +	ret = task_is_dying() || out_of_memory(&oc);
> > 
> > Why are you keeping the task_is_dying check here? IIRC I have already
> > pointed out that out_of_memory already has some means to do a bypass
> > when needed.
> 
> It was a misunderstanding.

Sorry if I made you confused.

> I've been waiting for your final decision.
> 
> I have no good arguments "pro" or strong objection "contra". 
> However, I prefer to keep task_is_dying() so as not to touch other tasks unnecessarily.

One argument for removing it from here is the maintainability. Now you
have a memcg specific check which is not in sync with the oom. E.g.
out_of_memory does task_will_free_mem as the very first thing. You are
also automatically excluding oom killer for cases where that might make
a sense.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Vasily Averin <vvs-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov
	<vdavydov.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Mel Gorman
	<mgorman-3eNAlZScCAx27rWaFMvyedHuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa
	<penguin-kernel-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kernel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH memcg 2/3] memcg: remove charge forcinig for dying tasks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2021 16:57:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YXAubuMMgNDeguNx@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cbda9b6b-3ee5-06ab-9a3b-debf361b55bb-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>

On Wed 20-10-21 17:21:33, Vasily Averin wrote:
> On 20.10.2021 15:41, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Wed 20-10-21 15:13:46, Vasily Averin wrote:
> >> ToDo: should we keep task_is_dying() in mem_cgroup_out_of_memory() ?
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Vasily Averin <vvs-5HdwGun5lf+gSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
> >> ---
> >>  mm/memcontrol.c | 20 +++++++-------------
> >>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> index 6da5020a8656..74a7379dbac1 100644
> >> --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> >> @@ -239,7 +239,7 @@ enum res_type {
> >>  	     iter != NULL;				\
> >>  	     iter = mem_cgroup_iter(NULL, iter, NULL))
> >>  
> >> -static inline bool should_force_charge(void)
> >> +static inline bool task_is_dying(void)
> >>  {
> >>  	return tsk_is_oom_victim(current) || fatal_signal_pending(current) ||
> >>  		(current->flags & PF_EXITING);
> >> @@ -1575,7 +1575,7 @@ static bool mem_cgroup_out_of_memory(struct mem_cgroup *memcg, gfp_t gfp_mask,
> >>  	 * A few threads which were not waiting at mutex_lock_killable() can
> >>  	 * fail to bail out. Therefore, check again after holding oom_lock.
> >>  	 */
> >> -	ret = should_force_charge() || out_of_memory(&oc);
> >> +	ret = task_is_dying() || out_of_memory(&oc);
> > 
> > Why are you keeping the task_is_dying check here? IIRC I have already
> > pointed out that out_of_memory already has some means to do a bypass
> > when needed.
> 
> It was a misunderstanding.

Sorry if I made you confused.

> I've been waiting for your final decision.
> 
> I have no good arguments "pro" or strong objection "contra". 
> However, I prefer to keep task_is_dying() so as not to touch other tasks unnecessarily.

One argument for removing it from here is the maintainability. Now you
have a memcg specific check which is not in sync with the oom. E.g.
out_of_memory does task_will_free_mem as the very first thing. You are
also automatically excluding oom killer for cases where that might make
a sense.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-20 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 131+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-18  8:13 [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-18  8:13 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18  9:04 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18  9:04   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 10:05   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:05     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:12     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 10:12       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 11:53     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 11:53       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <27dc0c49-a0d6-875b-49c6-0ef5c0cc3ac8@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-18 12:27         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 12:27           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 15:07           ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 15:07             ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 16:51             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 16:51               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-18 17:13               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-18 18:52             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 18:52               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 19:18               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-18 19:18                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  5:34                 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:34                   ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:33               ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  5:33                 ` Shakeel Butt
2021-10-19  6:42                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  6:42                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:47                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  8:47                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  6:30       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  6:30         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19  8:49         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19  8:49           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 10:30           ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 10:30             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 11:54             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 11:54               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 12:04               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 12:04                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 13:26                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 13:26                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 14:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:13                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:19                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 14:19                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-19 19:09                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-19 19:09                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:07                       ` [PATCH memcg v4] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:07                         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20  8:43                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20  8:43                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:11                           ` [PATCH memcg RFC 0/3] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:11                             ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                           ` <cover.1634730787.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-20 12:12                             ` [PATCH memcg 1/3] mm: do not firce global OOM from inside " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:12                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:33                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:33                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 13:52                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 13:52                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:13                             ` [PATCH memcg 2/3] memcg: remove charge forcinig for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:13                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:41                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:41                                 ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 14:21                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 14:21                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 14:57                                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-10-20 14:57                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:20                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-20 15:20                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-21 10:03                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 10:03                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 12:14                             ` [PATCH memcg 3/3] memcg: handle memcg oom failures Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 12:14                               ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 13:02                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-20 15:46                                 ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-20 15:46                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 11:49                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 15:05                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 15:05                                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 16:47                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 16:47                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:10                                         ` [PATCH memcg v2 0/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:10                                           ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                         ` <cover.1634889066.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 1/2] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:11                                             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:55                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:55                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  8:11                                           ` [PATCH memcg v2 2/2] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  8:11                                             ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-22  9:10                                             ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-22  9:10                                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:18                                               ` [PATCH memcg v3 0/3] " Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:18                                                 ` Vasily Averin
     [not found]                                               ` <cover.1634994605.git.vvs@virtuozzo.com>
2021-10-23 13:19                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 1/3] mm, oom: pagefault_out_of_memory: don't force global OOM for " Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:19                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:27                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:27                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 2/3] mm, oom: do not trigger out_of_memory from the #PF Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:20                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 15:01                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-23 15:01                                                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-23 19:15                                                     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  8:04                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  8:04                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 13:56                                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-26 13:56                                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2021-10-26 14:07                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-26 14:07                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:34                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:34                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-23 13:20                                                 ` [PATCH memcg v3 3/3] memcg: prohibit unconditional exceeding the limit of dying tasks Vasily Averin
2021-10-23 13:20                                                   ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-25  9:36                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-25  9:36                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-27 22:36                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-27 22:36                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2021-10-28  7:22                                                       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-28  7:22                                                         ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-29  7:46                                                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-29  7:46                                                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-10-29  7:58                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-29  7:58                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2021-11-12 23:48                         ` [PATCH memcg v4] " kernel test robot
2021-11-26  4:32                         ` kernel test robot
2021-10-21  8:03   ` [PATCH memcg 0/1] false global OOM triggered by memcg-limited task Vasily Averin
2021-10-21  8:03     ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 11:49     ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 11:49       ` Michal Hocko
2021-10-21 13:24       ` Vasily Averin
2021-10-21 13:24         ` Vasily Averin

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