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From: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <Andrew.Cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	Johannes Wikner <kwikner@ethz.ch>,
	Alyssa Milburn <alyssa.milburn@linux.intel.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Joao Moreira <joao.moreira@intel.com>,
	Joseph Nuzman <joseph.nuzman@intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/38] x86/retbleed: Call depth tracking mitigation
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 12:42:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YthapuEHKoci4OkQ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtXx8r5zfqZ12M04@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 01:51:14AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> That means the offset of +10 lands in the middle of the CALL
> instruction, and since we only have 16 thunks there is a limited number
> of byte patterns available there.
> 
> This really isn't as nice as the -6 but might just work well enough,
> hmm?

pcc pointed out that we can also just add two more ud2 instructions to
the check sequence if we want to be safe, with the cost of extra four
bytes per callsite.

> Also, since we're talking at least 4 bytes more padding over the 7 that
> are required by the kCFI scheme, the FineIBT alternative gets a little
> more room to breathe. I'm thinking we can have the FineIBT landing site
> at -16.
> 
> __fineibt_\func:
> 	endbr64				# 4
> 	xorl	$0x12345678, %r10d	# 7
> 	je	\func+4			# 2
> 	ud2				# 2
> 
> \func:
> 	nop4
> 	...

I assume this means the preamble must also be 16-byte aligned to avoid
performance issues with the FineIBT alternative? Which means we'll have
a 16-byte preamble preceded by the usual nop padding.

Sami

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-07-20 19:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-16 23:17 [patch 00/38] x86/retbleed: Call depth tracking mitigation Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 01/38] x86/paravirt: Ensure proper alignment Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 02/38] x86/cpu: Use native_wrmsrl() in load_percpu_segment() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17  0:22   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-07-17 15:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-17 19:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17 20:08       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17 20:13         ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17 21:54           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18  5:11             ` Juergen Gross
2022-07-18  6:54               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18  8:55                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18  9:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-18 10:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 11:42                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 17:52   ` [patch 0/3] x86/cpu: Sanitize switch_to_new_gdt() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 17:52   ` [patch 1/3] x86/cpu: Remove segment load from switch_to_new_gdt() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 18:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 18:55       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 17:52   ` [patch 2/3] x86/cpu: Get rid of redundant switch_to_new_gdt() invocations Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 17:52   ` [patch 3/3] x86/cpu: Re-enable stackprotector Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 03/38] x86/modules: Set VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS in module_alloc() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 04/38] x86/vdso: Ensure all kernel code is seen by objtool Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 05/38] btree: Initialize early when builtin Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 06/38] objtool: Allow GS relative relocs Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 07/38] objtool: Track init section Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 08/38] objtool: Add .call_sites section Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 09/38] objtool: Add .sym_sites section Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 10/38] objtool: Add --hacks=skylake Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 11/38] objtool: Allow STT_NOTYPE -> STT_FUNC+0 tail-calls Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 12/38] x86/entry: Make sync_regs() invocation a tail call Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 13/38] x86/modules: Make module_alloc() generally available Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 14/38] x86/Kconfig: Add CONFIG_CALL_THUNKS Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 15/38] x86/retbleed: Add X86_FEATURE_CALL_DEPTH Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 16/38] modules: Make struct module_layout unconditionally available Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 17/38] module: Add arch_data to module_layout Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 18/38] mm/vmalloc: Provide huge page mappings Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 19/38] x86/module: Provide __module_alloc() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 20/38] x86/alternatives: Provide text_poke_[copy|set]_locked() Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 21/38] x86/entry: Make some entry symbols global Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 22/38] x86/paravirt: Make struct paravirt_call_site unconditionally available Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 23/38] x86/callthunks: Add call patching for call depth tracking Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 24/38] module: Add layout for callthunks tracking Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 25/38] x86/modules: Add call thunk patching Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 26/38] x86/returnthunk: Allow different return thunks Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 27/38] x86/asm: Provide ALTERNATIVE_3 Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 28/38] x86/retbleed: Add SKL return thunk Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 29/38] x86/retpoline: Add SKL retthunk retpolines Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:17 ` [patch 30/38] x86/retbleed: Add SKL call thunk Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 31/38] x86/calldepth: Add ret/call counting for debug Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 32/38] static_call: Add call depth tracking support Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 33/38] kallsyms: Take callthunks into account Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 34/38] x86/orc: Make it callthunk aware Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 35/38] kprobes: Add callthunk blacklisting Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 36/38] x86/ftrace: Make it call depth tracking aware Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 21:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-19  8:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-19 13:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 37/38] x86/bpf: Emit call depth accounting if required Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-19  5:30   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-07-19  8:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-16 23:18 ` [patch 38/38] x86/retbleed: Add call depth tracking mitigation Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17  9:45 ` [patch 00/38] x86/retbleed: Call " David Laight
2022-07-17 15:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-17 17:56     ` David Laight
2022-07-17 19:15       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 19:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 19:30   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 19:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 20:44       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 21:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 21:43           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-18 22:34             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 23:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-18 21:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-18 22:22           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 22:47             ` Joao Moreira
2022-07-18 22:55               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-18 23:08                 ` Joao Moreira
2022-07-18 23:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 23:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 23:52                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 23:57                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-19  0:03                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19  0:11                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19  0:23                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-19  1:02                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19 17:19                             ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-20 21:13                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-21  8:21                                 ` David Laight
2022-07-21 10:56                                   ` David Laight
2022-07-21 15:54                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-21 17:55                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-21 18:06                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-21 18:27                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-21 18:32                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-21 20:22                                           ` Joao Moreira
2022-07-22  0:16                                         ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-22 10:23                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-22 15:38                                             ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-21 22:01                                       ` David Laight
2022-07-22 11:03                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-22 13:27                                           ` David Laight
2022-07-23  9:50                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-19  0:01                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19  0:19                         ` Joao Moreira
2022-07-19 17:21                           ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-19 17:58                             ` Joao Moreira
2022-07-19  8:26                         ` David Laight
2022-07-19 16:27                           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19 17:23                             ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-19 17:27                               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-19 18:06                                 ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-19 20:10                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-18 22:48           ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-18 22:59             ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-18 23:10               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-18 23:39               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 23:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-20  9:00               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-20 16:55               ` Sami Tolvanen
2022-07-20 19:42               ` Sami Tolvanen [this message]
2022-07-22 20:11         ` Tim Chen
2022-07-22 22:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-18 19:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-19 10:24 ` Virt " Andrew Cooper
2022-07-19 14:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-19 16:23     ` Andrew Cooper
2022-07-19 21:17       ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-07-19 14:45   ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-07-19 20:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-20 16:57 ` [patch 00/38] x86/retbleed: " Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 17:09   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-20 17:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-07-20 17:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 18:07         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-20 18:31           ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 18:43             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-07-20 19:11               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 19:36           ` Kees Cook
2022-07-20 19:43             ` Steven Rostedt
2022-07-20 21:36             ` Peter Zijlstra

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