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From: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, michel@daenzer.net,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/8] drm/amdgpu: Refactor sysfs removal
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:34:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a483eaf2-2bcc-6b67-fc91-7d67e573ade9@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X6wMHxypQttDDW3F@kroah.com>


On 11/11/20 11:06 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:45:53AM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>> On 11/11/20 10:34 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:13:13AM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/20 12:59 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 12:54:21PM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, back to this after a long context switch for some higher priority stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here I was able eventually to drop all this code and this change here https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https:%2F%2Fcgit.freedesktop.org%2F~agrodzov%2Flinux%2Fcommit%2F%3Fh%3Damd-staging-drm-next-device-unplug%26id%3D61852c8a59b4dd89d637693552c73175b9f2ccd6&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579242822%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=E%2FIZmVeJDvHiY2xSaaPaay4mXN49EbhSJaJ4zlt6WKk%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>>> was enough for me. Seems like while device_remove_file can handle the use
>>>>>> case where the file and the parent directory already gone,
>>>>>> sysfs_remove_group goes down in flames in that case
>>>>>> due to kobj->sd being unset on device removal.
>>>>> A driver shouldn't ever have to remove individual sysfs groups, the
>>>>> driver core/bus logic should do it for them automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> And whenever a driver calls a sysfs_* call, that's a hint that something
>>>>> is not working properly.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that while the driver creates the groups and files explicitly
>>>> from it's different subsystems it should not explicitly remove each
>>>> one of them because all of them should be removed at once (and
>>>> recursively) when the device is being removed ?
>>> Individual drivers should never add groups/files in sysfs, the driver
>>> core should do it properly for you if you have everything set up
>>> properly.  And yes, the driver core will automatically remove them as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Please use the default groups attribute for your bus/subsystem and this
>>> will happen automagically.
>> Googling for default groups attributes i found this - https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxfoundation.org%2Fblog%2F2013%2F06%2Fhow-to-create-a-sysfs-file-correctly%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579252818%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=AVhdi%2BcKeFXM8CBv%2BhRNTCYX2XSS8oo0so6mB%2BPuEfk%3D&amp;reserved=0
> Odd, mirror of the original article:
> 	https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkroah.com%2Flog%2Fblog%2F2013%2F06%2F26%2Fhow-to-create-a-sysfs-file-correctly%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579252818%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=lGMd3PJOWIlKUpvbV3Zz%2FvbBIRwz6%2BlJ%2BS%2BiVcXxuzM%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>> Would this be what you suggest for us ? Specifically for our case the struct
>> device's  groups  seems the right solution as different devices
>> might have slightly diffreent sysfs attributes.
> That's what the is_visable() callback in your attribute group is for, to
> tell the kernel if an individual sysfs attribute should be created or
> not.

I see, this looks like a good improvement to our current way of managing sysfs. 
Since this
change is somewhat fundamental and requires good testing I prefer to deal with 
it separately from my current
work on device unplug and so I will put it on TODO right after finishing this work.

Andrey


>
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h
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From: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch, michel@daenzer.net,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, ppaalanen@gmail.com,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com, alexdeucher@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/8] drm/amdgpu: Refactor sysfs removal
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 11:34:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a483eaf2-2bcc-6b67-fc91-7d67e573ade9@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X6wMHxypQttDDW3F@kroah.com>


On 11/11/20 11:06 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:45:53AM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>> On 11/11/20 10:34 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:13:13AM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>> On 11/10/20 12:59 PM, Greg KH wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 12:54:21PM -0500, Andrey Grodzovsky wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, back to this after a long context switch for some higher priority stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here I was able eventually to drop all this code and this change here https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https:%2F%2Fcgit.freedesktop.org%2F~agrodzov%2Flinux%2Fcommit%2F%3Fh%3Damd-staging-drm-next-device-unplug%26id%3D61852c8a59b4dd89d637693552c73175b9f2ccd6&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579242822%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=E%2FIZmVeJDvHiY2xSaaPaay4mXN49EbhSJaJ4zlt6WKk%3D&amp;reserved=0
>>>>>> was enough for me. Seems like while device_remove_file can handle the use
>>>>>> case where the file and the parent directory already gone,
>>>>>> sysfs_remove_group goes down in flames in that case
>>>>>> due to kobj->sd being unset on device removal.
>>>>> A driver shouldn't ever have to remove individual sysfs groups, the
>>>>> driver core/bus logic should do it for them automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> And whenever a driver calls a sysfs_* call, that's a hint that something
>>>>> is not working properly.
>>>>
>>>> Do you mean that while the driver creates the groups and files explicitly
>>>> from it's different subsystems it should not explicitly remove each
>>>> one of them because all of them should be removed at once (and
>>>> recursively) when the device is being removed ?
>>> Individual drivers should never add groups/files in sysfs, the driver
>>> core should do it properly for you if you have everything set up
>>> properly.  And yes, the driver core will automatically remove them as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Please use the default groups attribute for your bus/subsystem and this
>>> will happen automagically.
>> Googling for default groups attributes i found this - https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linuxfoundation.org%2Fblog%2F2013%2F06%2Fhow-to-create-a-sysfs-file-correctly%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579252818%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=AVhdi%2BcKeFXM8CBv%2BhRNTCYX2XSS8oo0so6mB%2BPuEfk%3D&amp;reserved=0
> Odd, mirror of the original article:
> 	https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fkroah.com%2Flog%2Fblog%2F2013%2F06%2F26%2Fhow-to-create-a-sysfs-file-correctly%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7C3e019e2780114b696b4f08d8865bac36%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637407075579252818%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=lGMd3PJOWIlKUpvbV3Zz%2FvbBIRwz6%2BlJ%2BS%2BiVcXxuzM%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>> Would this be what you suggest for us ? Specifically for our case the struct
>> device's  groups  seems the right solution as different devices
>> might have slightly diffreent sysfs attributes.
> That's what the is_visable() callback in your attribute group is for, to
> tell the kernel if an individual sysfs attribute should be created or
> not.

I see, this looks like a good improvement to our current way of managing sysfs. 
Since this
change is somewhat fundamental and requires good testing I prefer to deal with 
it separately from my current
work on device unplug and so I will put it on TODO right after finishing this work.

Andrey


>
> thanks,
>
> greg k-h
_______________________________________________
amd-gfx mailing list
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/amd-gfx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-11 16:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 194+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-21  6:03 [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] drm: Add dummy page per device or GEM object Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:35     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 14:21     ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-22 14:21       ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-22 14:24       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 14:24         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 14:28         ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-06-22 14:28           ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-11-09 20:34     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-09 20:34       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-15  6:39     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-15  6:39       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 13:18   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 13:18     ` Christian König
2020-06-22 14:23     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 14:23       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 14:32     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 14:32       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 17:45       ` Christian König
2020-06-22 17:45         ` Christian König
2020-06-22 17:50         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 17:50           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-09 20:53           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-09 20:53             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-13 20:52           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-13 20:52             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-14  8:41             ` Christian König
2020-11-14  8:41               ` Christian König
2020-11-14  9:51               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-14  9:51                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-14  9:57                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-14  9:57                   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-16  9:42                   ` Michel Dänzer
2020-11-16  9:42                     ` Michel Dänzer
2020-11-15  6:34                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-15  6:34                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-16  9:48                   ` Christian König
2020-11-16  9:48                     ` Christian König
2020-11-16 19:00                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-16 19:00                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-16 20:36                       ` Christian König
2020-11-16 20:36                         ` Christian König
2020-11-16 20:42                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-16 20:42                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-19 10:01                           ` Christian König
2020-11-19 10:01                             ` Christian König
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] drm/ttm: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:41   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:41     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24  3:31     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  3:31       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  7:19       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-24  7:19         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-10 17:41     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-10 17:41       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 19:30   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:30     ` Christian König
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] drm/ttm: Add unampping of the entire device address space Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:45   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23  5:00     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  5:00       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23 10:25       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23 10:25         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23 12:55         ` Christian König
2020-06-23 12:55           ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:37   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:37     ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:47   ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-22 19:47     ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] drm/amdgpu: Split amdgpu_device_fini into early and late Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:48   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:48     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-12  4:19     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-12  4:19       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-12  9:29       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-12  9:29         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] drm/amdgpu: Refactor sysfs removal Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:51   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:51     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 11:21     ` Greg KH
2020-06-22 11:21       ` Greg KH
2020-06-22 16:07       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 16:07         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 16:45         ` Greg KH
2020-06-22 16:45           ` Greg KH
2020-06-23  4:51           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  4:51             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  6:05             ` Greg KH
2020-06-23  6:05               ` Greg KH
2020-06-24  3:04               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  3:04                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  6:11                 ` Greg KH
2020-06-24  6:11                   ` Greg KH
2020-06-25  1:52                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-25  1:52                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-10 17:54                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-10 17:54                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-10 17:59                     ` Greg KH
2020-11-10 17:59                       ` Greg KH
2020-11-11 15:13                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-11 15:13                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-11 15:34                         ` Greg KH
2020-11-11 15:34                           ` Greg KH
2020-11-11 15:45                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-11 15:45                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-11 16:06                             ` Greg KH
2020-11-11 16:06                               ` Greg KH
2020-11-11 16:34                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky [this message]
2020-11-11 16:34                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 15:48                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 15:48                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 17:34                             ` Greg KH
2020-12-02 17:34                               ` Greg KH
2020-12-02 18:02                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 18:02                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 18:20                                 ` Greg KH
2020-12-02 18:20                                   ` Greg KH
2020-12-02 18:40                                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-12-02 18:40                                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22 13:19   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 13:19     ` Christian König
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] drm/amdgpu: Unmap entire device address space on device remove Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:56   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:56     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 19:38   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:38     ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:48     ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-22 19:48       ` Alex Deucher
2020-06-23 10:22       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23 10:22         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23 13:16         ` Christian König
2020-06-23 13:16           ` Christian König
2020-06-24  3:12           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  3:12             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] drm/amdgpu: Fix sdma code crash post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:55   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:55     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22 19:40   ` Christian König
2020-06-22 19:40     ` Christian König
2020-06-23  5:11     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  5:11       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  7:14       ` Christian König
2020-06-23  7:14         ` Christian König
2020-06-21  6:03 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] drm/amdgpu: Prevent any job recoveries after device is unplugged Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-21  6:03   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-22  9:53   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:53     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-17 18:38     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-17 18:38       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-17 18:52       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-17 18:52         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-17 19:18         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-17 19:18           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-17 19:49           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-17 19:49             ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-17 20:07             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-17 20:07               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-18  7:39               ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-18  7:39                 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-18 12:01                 ` Christian König
2020-11-18 12:01                   ` Christian König
2020-11-18 15:43                   ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-18 15:43                     ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-18 16:20                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-18 16:20                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-19  7:55                     ` Christian König
2020-11-19  7:55                       ` Christian König
2020-11-19 15:02                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-19 15:02                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-19 15:29                         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-19 15:29                           ` Daniel Vetter
2020-11-19 21:24                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-19 21:24                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-11-18  0:46             ` Luben Tuikov
2020-11-18  0:46               ` Luben Tuikov
2020-06-22  9:46 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Daniel Vetter
2020-06-22  9:46   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-23  5:14   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  5:14     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-23  9:04     ` Michel Dänzer
2020-06-23  9:04       ` Michel Dänzer
2020-06-24  3:21       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2020-06-24  3:21         ` Andrey Grodzovsky

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