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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm, compaction: don't migrate in blocks that cannot be fully compacted in async direct compaction
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:08:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1406041705140.22536@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401898310-14525-6-git-send-email-vbabka@suse.cz>

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

> In direct compaction, we want to allocate the high-order page as soon as
> possible, so migrating from a block of pages that contains also unmigratable
> pages just adds to allocation latency.
> 

The title of the patch in the subject line should probably be reworded 
since it implies we never isolate from blocks that cannot become 
completely free and what you're really doing is skipping cc->order aligned 
pages.

> This patch therefore makes the migration scanner skip to the next cc->order
> aligned block of pages as soon as it cannot isolate a non-free page. Everything
> isolated up to that point is put back.
> 
> In this mode, the nr_isolated limit to COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX is not observed,
> allowing the scanner to scan the whole block at once, instead of migrating
> COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX pages and then finding an unmigratable page in the next
> call. This might however have some implications on too_many_isolated.
> 
> Also in this RFC PATCH, the "skipping mode" is tied to async migration mode,
> which is not optimal. What we most probably want is skipping in direct
> compactions, but not from kswapd and hugepaged.
> 
> In very preliminary tests, this has reduced migrate_scanned, isolations and
> migrations by about 10%, while the success rate of stress-highalloc mmtests
> actually improved a bit.
> 

Ok, so this obsoletes my patchseries that did something similar.  I hope 
you can rebase this set on top of linux-next and then propose it formally 
without the RFC tag.

We also need to discuss the scheduling heuristics, the reliance on 
need_resched(), to abort async compaction.  In testing, we actualy 
sometimes see 2-3 pageblocks scanned before terminating and thp has a very 
little chance of being allocated.  At the same time, if we try to fault 
64MB of anon memory in and each of the 32 calls to compaction are 
expensive but don't result in an order-9 page, we see very lengthy fault 
latency.

I think it would be interesting to consider doing async compaction 
deferral up to 1 << COMPACT_MAX_DEFER_SHIFT after a sysctl-configurable 
amount of memory is scanned, at least for thp, and remove the scheduling 
heuristic entirely.

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From: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <mina86@mina86.com>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm, compaction: don't migrate in blocks that cannot be fully compacted in async direct compaction
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 17:08:59 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1406041705140.22536@chino.kir.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1401898310-14525-6-git-send-email-vbabka@suse.cz>

On Wed, 4 Jun 2014, Vlastimil Babka wrote:

> In direct compaction, we want to allocate the high-order page as soon as
> possible, so migrating from a block of pages that contains also unmigratable
> pages just adds to allocation latency.
> 

The title of the patch in the subject line should probably be reworded 
since it implies we never isolate from blocks that cannot become 
completely free and what you're really doing is skipping cc->order aligned 
pages.

> This patch therefore makes the migration scanner skip to the next cc->order
> aligned block of pages as soon as it cannot isolate a non-free page. Everything
> isolated up to that point is put back.
> 
> In this mode, the nr_isolated limit to COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX is not observed,
> allowing the scanner to scan the whole block at once, instead of migrating
> COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX pages and then finding an unmigratable page in the next
> call. This might however have some implications on too_many_isolated.
> 
> Also in this RFC PATCH, the "skipping mode" is tied to async migration mode,
> which is not optimal. What we most probably want is skipping in direct
> compactions, but not from kswapd and hugepaged.
> 
> In very preliminary tests, this has reduced migrate_scanned, isolations and
> migrations by about 10%, while the success rate of stress-highalloc mmtests
> actually improved a bit.
> 

Ok, so this obsoletes my patchseries that did something similar.  I hope 
you can rebase this set on top of linux-next and then propose it formally 
without the RFC tag.

We also need to discuss the scheduling heuristics, the reliance on 
need_resched(), to abort async compaction.  In testing, we actualy 
sometimes see 2-3 pageblocks scanned before terminating and thp has a very 
little chance of being allocated.  At the same time, if we try to fault 
64MB of anon memory in and each of the 32 calls to compaction are 
expensive but don't result in an order-9 page, we see very lengthy fault 
latency.

I think it would be interesting to consider doing async compaction 
deferral up to 1 << COMPACT_MAX_DEFER_SHIFT after a sysctl-configurable 
amount of memory is scanned, at least for thp, and remove the scheduling 
heuristic entirely.

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Thread overview: 267+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-01  0:45 [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback David Rientjes
2014-05-01  0:45 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01  0:45 ` [patch 2/2] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-01  0:45   ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01  5:10   ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-01 21:02     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:02       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01  5:08 ` [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Naoya Horiguchi
     [not found] ` <5361d71e.236ec20a.1b3d.ffffc8aeSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2014-05-01 21:02   ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:02     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35 ` [patch v2 1/4] " David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35   ` David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35   ` [patch v2 2/4] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 10:11     ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 10:11       ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 15:23     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:23       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:26       ` [PATCH] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 21:18         ` Naoya Horiguchi
     [not found]         ` <1399411134-k43fsr0p@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-07  9:33           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  9:33             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:27       ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/compaction: avoid rescanning pageblocks in isolate_freepages Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:27         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 22:19         ` Naoya Horiguchi
     [not found]         ` <1399414778-xakujfb3@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-07  9:22           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  9:22             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:29       ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 15:29         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-01 21:35   ` [patch v2 3/4] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05  9:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05  9:34       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05  9:51       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05  9:51         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 14:24         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 14:24           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06  0:29           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-06  0:29             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-06 11:52             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 11:52               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-01 21:35   ` [patch v2 4/4] mm, thp: do not perform sync compaction on pagefault David Rientjes
2014-05-01 21:35     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 10:22     ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 10:22       ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 11:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 11:22         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 11:58         ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-02 20:29           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 20:29             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-05 14:48             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-05 14:48               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06  8:55             ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-06  8:55               ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-06 15:05               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-06 15:05                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 10:10   ` [patch v2 1/4] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Mel Gorman
2014-05-07  2:22   ` [patch v3 1/6] " David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22     ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22     ` [patch v3 2/6] mm, compaction: return failed migration target pages back to freelist David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 14:14       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-07 21:15       ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:15         ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:21         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:21           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-12  8:35           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12  8:35             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:39         ` Greg Thelen
2014-05-07 21:39           ` Greg Thelen
2014-05-12  8:37           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12  8:37             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  2:22     ` [patch v3 3/6] mm, compaction: add per-zone migration pfn cache for async compaction David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07  9:34       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  9:34         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 20:56       ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-07  2:22     ` [patch v3 4/6] mm, compaction: embed migration mode in compact_control David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07  9:55       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  9:55         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 10:36         ` [patch v4 " David Rientjes
2014-05-07 10:36           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-09 22:03           ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-09 22:03             ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07  2:22     ` [patch v3 5/6] mm, thp: avoid excessive compaction latency during fault David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07  9:39       ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07  9:39         ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-08  5:30       ` [patch -mm] mm, thp: avoid excessive compaction latency during fault fix David Rientjes
2014-05-08  5:30         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-13 10:00         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13 10:00           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22  2:49           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22  2:49             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22  8:43             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22  8:43               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07  2:22     ` [patch v3 6/6] mm, compaction: terminate async compaction when rescheduling David Rientjes
2014-05-07  2:22       ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07  9:41       ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07  9:41         ` Mel Gorman
2014-05-07 12:09       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09         ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/compaction: avoid rescanning pageblocks in isolate_freepages Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:09           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:47           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:47             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 22:06           ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-08  5:28           ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-08  5:28             ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-12  9:09             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12  9:09               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13  1:15               ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13  1:15                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-09 15:49           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-09 15:49             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-19 10:14           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-19 10:14             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22  2:51             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22  2:51               ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:44         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/compaction: do not count migratepages when unnecessary David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:44           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-09 15:48         ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-09 15:48           ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-12  9:51           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12  9:51             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:10       ` [patch v3 6/6] mm, compaction: terminate async compaction when rescheduling Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 12:10         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-07 21:20       ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:20         ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-07 21:28         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-07 21:28           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-08  5:17       ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-08  5:17         ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-12 14:15         ` [PATCH] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 14:15           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:34           ` Naoya Horiguchi
     [not found]           ` <1399908847-ouuxeneo@n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>
2014-05-12 15:45             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:45               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-12 15:53               ` Naoya Horiguchi
2014-05-12 20:28           ` David Rientjes
2014-05-12 20:28             ` David Rientjes
2014-05-13  8:50             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13  8:50               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13  0:44           ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13  0:44             ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-13  8:54             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-13  8:54               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-15  2:21               ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-15  2:21                 ` Joonsoo Kim
2014-05-16  9:47           ` [PATCH v2] " Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-16  9:47             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-16 17:33             ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-16 17:33               ` Michal Nazarewicz
2014-05-19 23:37             ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-19 23:37               ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 14:13               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-21 14:13                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-21 20:11                 ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-21 20:11                   ` Andrew Morton
2014-05-22  3:20             ` compaction is still too expensive for thp (was: [PATCH v2] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention) David Rientjes
2014-05-22  3:20               ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22  8:10               ` compaction is still too expensive for thp Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22  8:10                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22  8:55                 ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22  8:55                   ` David Rientjes
2014-05-22 12:03                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 12:03                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04  0:29                     ` [patch -mm 1/3] mm: rename allocflags_to_migratetype for clarity David Rientjes
2014-06-04  0:29                       ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04  0:29                       ` [patch -mm 2/3] mm, compaction: pass gfp mask to compact_control David Rientjes
2014-06-04  0:29                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04  0:30                       ` [patch -mm 3/3] mm, compaction: avoid compacting memory for thp if pageblock cannot become free David Rientjes
2014-06-04  0:30                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 11:04                         ` Mel Gorman
2014-06-04 11:04                           ` Mel Gorman
2014-06-04 22:02                           ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 22:02                             ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:07                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:07                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11               ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] mm, compaction: skip rechecks when lock was already held Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 23:46                   ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 23:46                     ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] mm, compaction: remember position within pageblock in free pages scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] mm, compaction: skip buddy pages by their order in the migrate scanner Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05  0:02                   ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05  0:02                     ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05  9:24                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05  9:24                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 21:30                       ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 21:30                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-06  7:20                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-06  7:20                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09  9:09                           ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09  9:09                             ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 11:35                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 11:35                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09 22:25                               ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09 22:25                                 ` David Rientjes
2014-06-10  7:26                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-10  7:26                                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-10 23:54                                   ` David Rientjes
2014-06-10 23:54                                     ` David Rientjes
2014-06-11 12:18                                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-11 12:18                                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12  0:21                                       ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12  0:21                                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 11:56                                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 11:56                                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 21:48                                           ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 21:48                                             ` David Rientjes
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] mm, compaction: try to capture the just-created high-order freepage Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] mm, compaction: don't migrate in blocks that cannot be fully compacted in async direct compaction Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 16:11                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05  0:08                   ` David Rientjes [this message]
2014-06-05  0:08                     ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 15:38                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 15:38                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05 21:38                       ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05 21:38                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-06  7:33                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-06  7:33                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-09  9:06                           ` David Rientjes
2014-06-09  9:06                             ` David Rientjes
2014-06-12 12:18                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-12 12:18                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-04 23:39                 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] mm, compaction: periodically drop lock and restore IRQs in scanners David Rientjes
2014-06-04 23:39                   ` David Rientjes
2014-06-05  9:05                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-05  9:05                     ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-22 23:49             ` [PATCH v2] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention Kevin Hilman
2014-05-22 23:49               ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23  2:48               ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23  2:48                 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23  2:48                 ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23  8:34                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23  8:34                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23  8:34                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-23 10:49                   ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 10:49                     ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 10:49                     ` Shawn Guo
2014-05-23 15:07                   ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 15:07                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-23 15:07                     ` Kevin Hilman
2014-05-30 16:59                   ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30 16:59                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-05-30 16:59                     ` Stephen Warren
2014-06-02 13:35                   ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 13:35                     ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 13:35                     ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 14:33                     ` [PATCH -mm] mm, compaction: properly signal and act upon lock and need_sched() contention - fix Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 14:33                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 14:33                       ` Vlastimil Babka
2014-06-02 15:18                       ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 15:18                         ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 15:18                         ` Fabio Estevam
2014-06-02 20:09                       ` David Rientjes
2014-06-02 20:09                         ` David Rientjes
2014-06-02 20:09                         ` David Rientjes
2014-05-02 13:16 ` [patch 1/2] mm, migration: add destination page freeing callback Vlastimil Babka
2014-05-02 13:16   ` Vlastimil Babka

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