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From: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Sachin Sant <sachinp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Linux-Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [5.6.0-rc2-next-20200218/powerpc] Boot failure on POWER9
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2002261823270.8012@www.lameter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200224085812.GB22443@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, Michal Hocko wrote:

> Hmm, nasty. Is there any reason why kmalloc_node behaves differently
> from the page allocator?

The page allocator will do the same thing if you pass GFP_THISNODE and
insist on allocating memory from a node that does not exist.


> > > A short summary. kmalloc_node blows up when trying to allocate from a
> > > memory less node.
> >
> > Use kmalloc instead? And set a memory allocation policy?
>
> The current code (memcg_expand_one_shrinker_map resp. memcg_alloc_shrinker_maps)
> already use kvmalloc. Kirill's patch wanted to make those data structure
> on the respective node and kvmalloc_node sounded like the right thing to
> do. It comes as a surprise that the kernel simply blows up on a memory
> less node rather than falling back to a close node gracefully. I suspect
> this already happens when the target node is out of memory, right?

No. If the target node is out of memory then direct reclaim is going to be
invovked.

> How would a memory allocation policy help in this case btw.?

It would allow fallback to other nodes.



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From: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Sachin Sant <sachinp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>,
	Linux-Next Mailing List <linux-next@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [5.6.0-rc2-next-20200218/powerpc] Boot failure on POWER9
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:25:28 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2002261823270.8012@www.lameter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200224085812.GB22443@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, Michal Hocko wrote:

> Hmm, nasty. Is there any reason why kmalloc_node behaves differently
> from the page allocator?

The page allocator will do the same thing if you pass GFP_THISNODE and
insist on allocating memory from a node that does not exist.


> > > A short summary. kmalloc_node blows up when trying to allocate from a
> > > memory less node.
> >
> > Use kmalloc instead? And set a memory allocation policy?
>
> The current code (memcg_expand_one_shrinker_map resp. memcg_alloc_shrinker_maps)
> already use kvmalloc. Kirill's patch wanted to make those data structure
> on the respective node and kvmalloc_node sounded like the right thing to
> do. It comes as a surprise that the kernel simply blows up on a memory
> less node rather than falling back to a close node gracefully. I suspect
> this already happens when the target node is out of memory, right?

No. If the target node is out of memory then direct reclaim is going to be
invovked.

> How would a memory allocation policy help in this case btw.?

It would allow fallback to other nodes.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-26 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-18 10:45 [5.6.0-rc2-next-20200218/powerpc] Boot failure on POWER9 Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 10:50 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 10:50   ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 11:01   ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 11:01     ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 11:35     ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 11:35       ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-02-18 11:40     ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 11:55       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 11:55         ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 14:00         ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 14:00           ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 14:26           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 14:26             ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 15:11             ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 15:11               ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 15:24               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 15:24                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-22  3:38                 ` Christopher Lameter
2020-02-22  3:38                   ` Christopher Lameter
2020-02-24  8:58                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-24  8:58                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 18:25                     ` Christopher Lameter [this message]
2020-02-26 18:25                       ` Christopher Lameter
2020-02-26 18:41                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 18:41                         ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 18:44                         ` Christopher Lameter
2020-02-26 18:44                           ` Christopher Lameter
2020-02-26 19:01                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 19:01                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 20:31                             ` David Rientjes
2020-02-26 20:31                               ` David Rientjes
2020-02-26 20:52                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 20:52                                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-26 21:45                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-02-26 21:45                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-02-26 22:29                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-02-26 22:29                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-02-27 12:12                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-27 12:12                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-27 16:00                               ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-27 16:00                                 ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-27 16:16                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-02-27 18:26                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-27 18:26                                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-10 15:01                                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-10 15:01                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-12 12:18                                       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-12 12:18                                         ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-12 16:51                                         ` Sachin Sant
2020-03-12 16:51                                           ` Sachin Sant
2020-03-13 10:48                                           ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-13 10:48                                             ` Michael Ellerman
2020-03-13 11:12                                             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-13 11:12                                               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-13 11:35                                               ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-13 11:35                                                 ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-14  8:10                                                 ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-27 12:02                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-27 12:02                             ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 11:38   ` Sachin Sant
2020-02-18 11:53     ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-03-17 13:17 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix kmalloc_node on offline nodes Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17   ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: Check for node_online in node_present_pages Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:37     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:37       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17   ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/slub: Use mem_node to allocate a new slab Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-17 13:34       ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-17 13:45       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:45         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:53         ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-17 13:53           ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-17 14:51           ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 14:51             ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 15:29             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-17 15:29               ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-03-18  7:29               ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-18  7:29                 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 16:41       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 16:41         ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17   ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: Implement reset_numa_mem Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17   ` [PATCH 4/4] powerpc/numa: Set fallback nodes for offline nodes Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 13:17     ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 14:22     ` Bharata B Rao
2020-03-17 14:22       ` Bharata B Rao
2020-03-17 14:29       ` Srikar Dronamraju
2020-03-17 14:29         ` Srikar Dronamraju

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