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From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: remove the legacy ide driver
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:48:32 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103191712550.21463@angie.orcam.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210318045706.200458-1-hch@lst.de>

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> we've been trying to get rid of the legacy ide driver for a while now,
> and finally scheduled a removal for 2021, which is three month old now.

 Hmm, there's still a regression in that pata_legacy unconditionally pokes 
at random I/O port locations corresponding to all the known possible ATA 
interface mappings with ISA option cards:

scsi host0: pata_legacy
ata1: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 irq 14
ata1.00: ATA-4: ST310211A, 3.54, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 19541088 sectors, multi 16: LBA
ata1.00: configured for PIO
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      ST310211A        3.54 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 19541088 512-byte logical blocks: (10.0 GB/9.32 GiB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't 
support DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata2: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 irq 15
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata3: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e8 ctl 0x3ee irq 11
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata4: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x168 ctl 0x36e irq 10
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata5: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e0 ctl 0x3e6 irq 8
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata6: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x160 ctl 0x366 irq 12

This seems needlessly dangerous to me.  With the old IDE driver I could 
(and did) specify "ide_generic.probe_mask=1" to avoid this clutter (the 
ISA card used with this system has a single ATA port only).

 I guess it's easy to fix by carrying the `probe_mask' parameter over and 
I think we'd rather wait with the removal of the IDE subsystem until we 
have a release with this option supported.  I may look into it unless 
someone beats me to it.

 Overall I find it rather disturbing that nobody has noticed this issue 
over all these years.

 NB it is only earlier this year that I recovered this system from a PSU 
failure several years ago, which took the disk the system previously had 
with it, so myself I had no chance to get at it any earlier, though I did 
mean to have a look as soon as I saw the notice about the scheduled IDE 
removal.

  Maciej

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From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: remove the legacy ide driver
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:48:32 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103191712550.21463@angie.orcam.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210318045706.200458-1-hch@lst.de>

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> we've been trying to get rid of the legacy ide driver for a while now,
> and finally scheduled a removal for 2021, which is three month old now.

 Hmm, there's still a regression in that pata_legacy unconditionally pokes 
at random I/O port locations corresponding to all the known possible ATA 
interface mappings with ISA option cards:

scsi host0: pata_legacy
ata1: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 irq 14
ata1.00: ATA-4: ST310211A, 3.54, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 19541088 sectors, multi 16: LBA
ata1.00: configured for PIO
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      ST310211A        3.54 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 19541088 512-byte logical blocks: (10.0 GB/9.32 GiB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't 
support DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata2: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 irq 15
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata3: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e8 ctl 0x3ee irq 11
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata4: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x168 ctl 0x36e irq 10
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata5: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e0 ctl 0x3e6 irq 8
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata6: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x160 ctl 0x366 irq 12

This seems needlessly dangerous to me.  With the old IDE driver I could 
(and did) specify "ide_generic.probe_mask=1" to avoid this clutter (the 
ISA card used with this system has a single ATA port only).

 I guess it's easy to fix by carrying the `probe_mask' parameter over and 
I think we'd rather wait with the removal of the IDE subsystem until we 
have a release with this option supported.  I may look into it unless 
someone beats me to it.

 Overall I find it rather disturbing that nobody has noticed this issue 
over all these years.

 NB it is only earlier this year that I recovered this system from a PSU 
failure several years ago, which took the disk the system previously had 
with it, so myself I had no chance to get at it any earlier, though I did 
mean to have a look as soon as I saw the notice about the scheduled IDE 
removal.

  Maciej

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	 Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	 Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	 Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	 Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
	 Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	 linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@vger.kernel.org,
	 linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: remove the legacy ide driver
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:48:32 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2103191712550.21463@angie.orcam.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210318045706.200458-1-hch@lst.de>

On Thu, 18 Mar 2021, Christoph Hellwig wrote:

> we've been trying to get rid of the legacy ide driver for a while now,
> and finally scheduled a removal for 2021, which is three month old now.

 Hmm, there's still a regression in that pata_legacy unconditionally pokes 
at random I/O port locations corresponding to all the known possible ATA 
interface mappings with ISA option cards:

scsi host0: pata_legacy
ata1: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 irq 14
ata1.00: ATA-4: ST310211A, 3.54, max UDMA/100
ata1.00: 19541088 sectors, multi 16: LBA
ata1.00: configured for PIO
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      ST310211A        3.54 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 19541088 512-byte logical blocks: (10.0 GB/9.32 GiB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't 
support DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata2: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 irq 15
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata3: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e8 ctl 0x3ee irq 11
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata4: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x168 ctl 0x36e irq 10
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata5: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x1e0 ctl 0x3e6 irq 8
scsi host1: pata_legacy
ata6: PATA max PIO4 cmd 0x160 ctl 0x366 irq 12

This seems needlessly dangerous to me.  With the old IDE driver I could 
(and did) specify "ide_generic.probe_mask=1" to avoid this clutter (the 
ISA card used with this system has a single ATA port only).

 I guess it's easy to fix by carrying the `probe_mask' parameter over and 
I think we'd rather wait with the removal of the IDE subsystem until we 
have a release with this option supported.  I may look into it unless 
someone beats me to it.

 Overall I find it rather disturbing that nobody has noticed this issue 
over all these years.

 NB it is only earlier this year that I recovered this system from a PSU 
failure several years ago, which took the disk the system previously had 
with it, so myself I had no chance to get at it any earlier, though I did 
mean to have a look as soon as I saw the notice about the scheduled IDE 
removal.

  Maciej

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-19 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-18  4:56 remove the legacy ide driver Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56 ` [PATCH 01/10] alpha: use libata instead of " Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  5:54   ` Al Viro
2021-03-18  5:54     ` Al Viro
2021-03-18  5:54     ` Al Viro
2021-03-18  6:07     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  6:07       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  6:07       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18 17:09       ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18 17:09         ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18 17:09         ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18 18:03         ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18 18:03           ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18 18:03           ` Måns Rullgård
2021-03-18  7:54     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-18  7:54       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-18  7:54       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-19 16:23     ` Serge Belyshev
2021-03-19 16:23       ` Serge Belyshev
2021-03-19 16:23       ` Serge Belyshev
2021-03-18  4:56 ` [PATCH 02/10] ARM: disable CONFIG_IDE in footbridge_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 17:07   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-19 17:07     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-19 17:07     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-19 17:53     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-19 17:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-19 17:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 14:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 14:54         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 14:54         ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:15         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 15:15           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 15:15           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 15:18           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:18             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:33             ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-22 15:33               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-23 14:03               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-23 14:03                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-23 14:03                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 15:44             ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 16:59             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 16:59               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 16:59               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 16:09           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-22 16:09             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-22 16:09             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-22 16:43             ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 16:47             ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 16:47               ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 16:47               ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 17:03             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 17:03               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 17:03               ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-22 17:10               ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 17:10                 ` Cye Borg
2021-03-22 17:10                 ` Cye Borg
2021-03-23 18:43                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-23 18:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-23 18:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-03-24  5:47                   ` Cye Borg
2021-03-24  5:47                     ` Cye Borg
2021-03-24  5:47                     ` Cye Borg
2021-03-18  4:56 ` [PATCH 03/10] ARM: disable CONFIG_IDE in pxa_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:56   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 04/10] MIPS: disable CONFIG_IDE in sb1250_swarm_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19  0:12   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-19  0:12     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-19  0:12     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-24  9:59   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24  9:59     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24  9:59     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 05/10] MIPS: switch workpad_defconfig from legacy IDE to libata Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-24 10:00   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 06/10] MIPS: disable CONFIG_IDE in rbtx49xx_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-24 10:00   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 07/10] MIPS: disable CONFIG_IDE in bigsur_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18 10:08   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-18 10:08     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-18 10:08     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-24 10:00   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:00     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 08/10] MIPS: disable CONFIG_IDE in malta*_defconfig Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18 10:12   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-18 10:12     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-18 10:12     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2021-03-18 14:19   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18 14:19     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18 14:19     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-19 13:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 13:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 13:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-24 10:01   ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:01     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-24 10:01     ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 09/10] m68k: use libata instead of the legacy ide driver Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57 ` [PATCH 10/10] ide: remove " Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-18  4:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-20  3:44   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-20  3:44     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-20  3:44     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-20  4:04     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-20  4:04       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-20  4:04       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-19  1:43 ` Finn Thain
2021-03-19  1:43   ` Finn Thain
2021-03-19  1:43   ` Finn Thain
2021-03-19  5:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19  5:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19  5:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-03-19 16:48 ` Maciej W. Rozycki [this message]
2021-03-19 16:48   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-19 16:48   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2021-03-21  9:20 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-21  9:20   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-03-21  9:20   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

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