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From: Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@linaro.org>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "cross-distro@lists.linaro.org" <cross-distro@lists.linaro.org>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Michael Casadevall <Michael.casadevall@linaro.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@linaro.org>,
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	Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>,
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	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@citrix.com>,
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	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] ARM VM System Sepcification
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 23:06:06 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.11.1402262259290.17677__21996.754842303$1393474079$gmane$org@knanqh.ubzr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9nq_V4VGG=j6FWFatJBnTuYrU9-9U9eGXcQz0zimrasQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014, Peter Maydell wrote:

> On 26 February 2014 23:08, Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org> wrote:
> >> What does the 8250 have to recommend it over just providing
> >> the PL011?
> >
> > As I mentioned, it will just work for anything that expects the serial
> > port to be ttyS0 as on x86 rather than ttyAMA0.
> 
> This doesn't seem very compelling to me. Either userspace
> should just be fixed or the kernel should implement a namespace
> for serial ports which doesn't randomly change just because the
> particular h/w driver doing the implementation is different.
> We shouldn't be papering over other peoples' problems in the VM
> spec IMHO.

Indeed.

This is already causing us trouble in other contexts.  Please have a 
look at this patch for a solution:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.samsung-soc/27222


Nicolas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-27  4:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 222+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-26 18:34 [RFC] ARM VM System Sepcification Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 18:34 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 19:27 ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 19:27   ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 19:51   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 19:51   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 19:51     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 13:12     ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-27 13:12     ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-27 13:12       ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-27 16:02       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 16:02         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 16:02       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-01 15:41       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 15:41         ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 19:27 ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-26 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-26 20:05   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 20:05     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 20:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-26 20:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` < CABGGisxHOVqLcG7hVAuAzdeic41KWSLLBSjQLSJQcjTXLhNCow@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-26 21:56       ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 21:56       ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 21:56         ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 22:21         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:21         ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:21           ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27  7:30           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27  7:30           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27  7:30             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 10:05             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 10:05             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-27 10:05               ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-01 19:12           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:12           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:12             ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 20:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27  9:35     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-02-27  9:35       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-02-27  9:35     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-02-26 20:05   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 20:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 20:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 20:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 20:20     ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 20:20       ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 20:20     ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 21:48   ` Leif Lindholm
2014-02-26 21:48     ` Leif Lindholm
2014-02-26 22:25     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:25       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-01 19:20       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:20       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:20         ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 22:25     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 12:31     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 12:31       ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 14:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 14:00         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 14:24         ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-27 14:24           ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-27 19:56           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 19:56           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 19:56             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-28  0:05             ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-28  0:05             ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-28  0:05               ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-28 10:01               ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]               ` <CB7DBE07-42BD-4588-AC9E-CB0BF95A811A-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2014-02-28 10:01                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-28 10:01                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-28 13:38                 ` Riku Voipio
2014-02-28 13:38               ` Riku Voipio
2014-02-28 14:44               ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-28 14:44                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-28 14:44               ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 14:24         ` Alexander Graf
2014-03-01 19:25         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:25           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:25         ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 14:00       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 12:31     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-26 21:48   ` Leif Lindholm
2014-02-26 22:49   ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 22:49     ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 22:54     ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 22:54       ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 23:08       ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 23:08       ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 23:08         ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 23:14         ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 23:14           ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27  4:06           ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-27  4:06             ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-27  4:06           ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2014-02-26 23:14         ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27 11:36         ` Robie Basak
2014-02-27 11:36           ` Robie Basak
2014-02-27 11:36         ` Robie Basak
2014-02-26 22:54     ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 23:13     ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 23:13     ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 23:13       ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 22:49   ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-26 21:05 ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2014-02-26 21:05 ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2014-02-26 21:05   ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2014-02-26 21:08   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 21:08     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 21:08   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:35 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 22:47   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:47     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 22:47   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 12:27   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 12:27   ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 12:27     ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-03-01 19:54     ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 12:55   ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27 12:55     ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27 12:55   ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 22:35 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27  0:41 ` Blibbet
2014-02-27  0:41   ` Blibbet
2014-02-27  0:41 ` Blibbet
     [not found] ` <20140226134251.0436294e@anubis.ausil.us>
     [not found]   ` <CAMJs5B9bCs8Oz2Zg4UK--A3H4AaZRPMwy7SpxYom-1--_=qhBQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <20140226151536.58154704@anubis.ausil.us>
2014-02-27 17:34       ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 17:34       ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 17:34         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 15:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 15:27   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-03  1:13   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-03  1:13     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-03  1:13   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-06  8:52   ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06  8:52   ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06  8:52     ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06  9:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06  9:46       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06 11:44       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-06 11:44       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-06 11:44         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-06 12:04         ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06 12:04           ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06 12:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06 12:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06 12:10             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07 12:24           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-06 12:04         ` Robie Basak
     [not found]         ` <20140306120449.GA29916@ mal.justgohome.co.uk>
     [not found]           ` <20140306120449.GA29916-TaX3GuEuUBUVRcMIguc0yNBc4/FLrbF6@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-07 12:24             ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 12:24               ` Grant Likely
     [not found]               ` < 20140322010206.GF25519@cbox>
2014-03-22  2:29               ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-22  2:29               ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-22  2:29                 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-22  8:08                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22  8:08                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22  8:08                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-23  3:19                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:19                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:29                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:29                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:29                       ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-24  9:57                       ` Robie Basak
2014-03-24  9:57                         ` Robie Basak
2014-03-24 10:46                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:46                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:46                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24  9:57                       ` Robie Basak
2014-03-23  3:19                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-22 12:23                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 12:23                   ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 19:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22 19:57                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22 22:35                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 22:35                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 22:35                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 23:38                     ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-22 23:38                     ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-22 23:38                       ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-23  0:33                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-23  0:33                       ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-23  0:33                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-22 19:57                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-23  3:23                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:23                   ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23  3:23                     ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-24  9:03                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24  9:03                   ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24  9:03                     ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 10:41                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:41                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:41                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:47                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 10:47                         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 10:47                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 12:13                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-24 12:13                     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-24 12:13                       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-24 12:16                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 12:16                       ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 12:16                         ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-22 12:23                 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 12:19       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 11:41       ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-08 11:41         ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-08 20:41         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-08 20:41         ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-08 20:41           ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-08 11:41       ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-06  9:46     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07 12:09     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 12:09     ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 12:09       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]     ` <531843EE. 8040102@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <531843EE.8040102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-07 12:19         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-07 12:19           ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 15:27 ` Grant Likely
     [not found] ` < CACxGe6tjuytsYAn6Hadf0AK+REzHgRydgbHPafL8+Sdtd_tMUA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <alpine .DEB.2.02.1402271216040.31489@kaball.uk.xensource.com>
     [not found]     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1402271216040.31489-7Z66fg9igcxYtxbxJUhB2Dgeux46jI+i@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-01 19:54       ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 19:54         ` Grant Likely
2014-03-02  9:29         ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-02  9:29         ` Peter Maydell
2014-03-02  9:29           ` Peter Maydell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-02-26 18:34 Christoffer Dall

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