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From: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>, <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:49:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1254942-0900-0ab2-5356-4832104c0670@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y6agEsfXKMMXPpmz@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On 12/23/2022 10:45 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 03:31:46PM -0800, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>> Several Qualcomm based chipsets can support USB audio offloading to a
>> dedicated audio DSP, which can take over issuing transfers to the USB
>> host controller.  The intention is to reduce the load on the main
>> processors in the SoC, and allow them to be placed into lower power modes.
>> There are several parts to this design:
>>    1. Adding ASoC binding layer
>>    2. Create a USB backend for Q6DSP
>>    3. Introduce XHCI interrupter support
>>    4. Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver
>>
>> Adding ASoC binding layer:
>> soc-usb: Intention is to treat a USB port similar to a headphone jack.
>> The port is always present on the device, but cable/pin status can be
>> enabled/disabled.  Expose mechanisms for USB backend ASoC drivers to
>> communicate with USB SND.
>>
>> Create a USB backend for Q6DSP:
>> q6usb: Basic backend driver that will be responsible for maintaining the
>> resources needed to initiate a playback stream using the Q6DSP.  Will
>> be the entity that checks to make sure the connected USB audio device
>> supports the requested PCM format.  If it does not, the PCM open call will
>> fail, and userpsace ALSA can take action accordingly.
>>
>> Introduce XHCI interrupter support:
>> XHCI HCD supports multiple interrupters, which allows for events to be routed
>> to different event rings.  This is determined by "Interrupter Target" field
>> specified in Section "6.4.1.1 Normal TRB" of the XHCI specification.
>>
>> Events in the offloading case will be routed to an event ring that is assigned
>> to the audio DSP.
>>
>> Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver:
>> qc_audio_offload: This particular driver has several components associated
>> with it:
>> - QMI stream request handler
>> - XHCI interrupter and resource management
>> - audio DSP memory management
>>
>> When the audio DSP wants to enable a playback stream, the request is first
>> received by the ASoC platform sound card.  Depending on the selected route,
>> ASoC will bring up the individual DAIs in the path.  The Q6USB backend DAI
>> will send an AFE port start command (with enabling the USB playback path), and
>> the audio DSP will handle the request accordingly.
>>
>> Part of the AFE USB port start handling will have an exchange of control
>> messages using the QMI protocol.  The qc_audio_offload driver will populate the
>> buffer information:
>> - Event ring base address
>> - EP transfer ring base address
>>
>> and pass it along to the audio DSP.  All endpoint management will now be handed
>> over to the DSP, and the main processor is not involved in transfers.
>>
>> Overall, implementing this feature will still expose separate sound card and PCM
>> devices for both the platorm card and USB audio device:
>>   0 [SM8250MTPWCD938]: sm8250 - SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-D
>>                        SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-DMIC
>>   1 [Audio          ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
>>                        Generic USB Audio at usb-xhci-hcd.1.auto-1.4, high speed
>>
>> This is to ensure that userspace ALSA entities can decide which route to take
>> when executing the audio playback.  In the above, if card#1 is selected, then
>> USB audio data will take the legacy path over the USB PCM drivers, etc...
>>
>> This feature was validated using:
>> - tinymix: set/enable the multimedia path to route to USB backend
>> - tinyplay: issue playback on platform card
> 
> This looks to duplicate a bunch of the same things that a number of
> different google developers have posted recently.  Please work with them
> to come up with a unified set of patches that you all can agree with,
> AND get them to sign off on the changes before resubmitting them.
> 
> This uncoordinated drip of patches from different people doing the same
> thing is almost impossible to review from our side, as I'm sure you can
> imagine.

I saw some of the Google patchsets submitted awhile back, but didn't 
really get a chance to look at them in detail.  Let me reach out to 
Albert Wang to see if we can come to a solution that works for both 
implementations.

 From the looks of it (at least from the XHCI HCD changes), it seems 
that a different set of resources is required for the Google 
implementation to work.  I'll need to ask for a bit more details before 
I can comment further...

> 
> That being said, thank you finally for at least submitting all of the
> needed changes together as one patch set.  That's a first, and something
> we had been asking for for years.
> 
> Have a good holiday break,

Thanks for the quick in-depth review, and the feedback.  Gives me some 
more things to think about improving over the break :).  Happy holidays!

Thanks
Wesley Cheng

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From: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, bgoswami@quicinc.com,
	mathias.nyman@intel.com, Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com,
	andersson@kernel.org, tiwai@suse.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, broonie@kernel.org,
	srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org, agross@kernel.org,
	krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_plai@quicinc.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	quic_jackp@quicinc.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 00:49:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1254942-0900-0ab2-5356-4832104c0670@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y6agEsfXKMMXPpmz@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On 12/23/2022 10:45 PM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 03:31:46PM -0800, Wesley Cheng wrote:
>> Several Qualcomm based chipsets can support USB audio offloading to a
>> dedicated audio DSP, which can take over issuing transfers to the USB
>> host controller.  The intention is to reduce the load on the main
>> processors in the SoC, and allow them to be placed into lower power modes.
>> There are several parts to this design:
>>    1. Adding ASoC binding layer
>>    2. Create a USB backend for Q6DSP
>>    3. Introduce XHCI interrupter support
>>    4. Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver
>>
>> Adding ASoC binding layer:
>> soc-usb: Intention is to treat a USB port similar to a headphone jack.
>> The port is always present on the device, but cable/pin status can be
>> enabled/disabled.  Expose mechanisms for USB backend ASoC drivers to
>> communicate with USB SND.
>>
>> Create a USB backend for Q6DSP:
>> q6usb: Basic backend driver that will be responsible for maintaining the
>> resources needed to initiate a playback stream using the Q6DSP.  Will
>> be the entity that checks to make sure the connected USB audio device
>> supports the requested PCM format.  If it does not, the PCM open call will
>> fail, and userpsace ALSA can take action accordingly.
>>
>> Introduce XHCI interrupter support:
>> XHCI HCD supports multiple interrupters, which allows for events to be routed
>> to different event rings.  This is determined by "Interrupter Target" field
>> specified in Section "6.4.1.1 Normal TRB" of the XHCI specification.
>>
>> Events in the offloading case will be routed to an event ring that is assigned
>> to the audio DSP.
>>
>> Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver:
>> qc_audio_offload: This particular driver has several components associated
>> with it:
>> - QMI stream request handler
>> - XHCI interrupter and resource management
>> - audio DSP memory management
>>
>> When the audio DSP wants to enable a playback stream, the request is first
>> received by the ASoC platform sound card.  Depending on the selected route,
>> ASoC will bring up the individual DAIs in the path.  The Q6USB backend DAI
>> will send an AFE port start command (with enabling the USB playback path), and
>> the audio DSP will handle the request accordingly.
>>
>> Part of the AFE USB port start handling will have an exchange of control
>> messages using the QMI protocol.  The qc_audio_offload driver will populate the
>> buffer information:
>> - Event ring base address
>> - EP transfer ring base address
>>
>> and pass it along to the audio DSP.  All endpoint management will now be handed
>> over to the DSP, and the main processor is not involved in transfers.
>>
>> Overall, implementing this feature will still expose separate sound card and PCM
>> devices for both the platorm card and USB audio device:
>>   0 [SM8250MTPWCD938]: sm8250 - SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-D
>>                        SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-DMIC
>>   1 [Audio          ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
>>                        Generic USB Audio at usb-xhci-hcd.1.auto-1.4, high speed
>>
>> This is to ensure that userspace ALSA entities can decide which route to take
>> when executing the audio playback.  In the above, if card#1 is selected, then
>> USB audio data will take the legacy path over the USB PCM drivers, etc...
>>
>> This feature was validated using:
>> - tinymix: set/enable the multimedia path to route to USB backend
>> - tinyplay: issue playback on platform card
> 
> This looks to duplicate a bunch of the same things that a number of
> different google developers have posted recently.  Please work with them
> to come up with a unified set of patches that you all can agree with,
> AND get them to sign off on the changes before resubmitting them.
> 
> This uncoordinated drip of patches from different people doing the same
> thing is almost impossible to review from our side, as I'm sure you can
> imagine.

I saw some of the Google patchsets submitted awhile back, but didn't 
really get a chance to look at them in detail.  Let me reach out to 
Albert Wang to see if we can come to a solution that works for both 
implementations.

 From the looks of it (at least from the XHCI HCD changes), it seems 
that a different set of resources is required for the Google 
implementation to work.  I'll need to ask for a bit more details before 
I can comment further...

> 
> That being said, thank you finally for at least submitting all of the
> needed changes together as one patch set.  That's a first, and something
> we had been asking for for years.
> 
> Have a good holiday break,

Thanks for the quick in-depth review, and the feedback.  Gives me some 
more things to think about improving over the break :).  Happy holidays!

Thanks
Wesley Cheng

  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-24  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 171+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-23 23:31 [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] ASoC: Add SOC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  6:48   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  6:48     ` Greg KH
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  1:37   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-04 23:33   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-06  1:05     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06  1:05       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06 16:09       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-07  0:51         ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-07  0:51           ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-05 18:09   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-05 18:09     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-06  1:32     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06  1:32       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] ASoC: qcom: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  2:17   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-24  2:17   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-24  9:02   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  9:02     ` Greg KH
2022-12-27 13:04     ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 13:04       ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 13:45       ` Greg KH
2022-12-27 13:45         ` Greg KH
2022-12-27 14:02         ` Takashi Iwai
2022-12-27 14:02           ` Takashi Iwai
2022-12-27 14:11           ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 14:11             ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 15:11         ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 15:11           ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 21:06           ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:06             ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:07     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:07       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-04 23:41   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-06  1:05     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06  1:05       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06 16:16       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] sound: usb: card: Introduce USB SND vendor op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24 11:03   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-24 11:03     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-27 21:07     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:07       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:33       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-27 21:33         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-29 13:49   ` Oliver Neukum
2022-12-29 13:49     ` Oliver Neukum
2022-12-29 14:20     ` Takashi Iwai
2022-12-29 14:20       ` Takashi Iwai
2022-12-30  7:10       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-30  7:10         ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-03 12:20         ` Oliver Neukum
2023-01-03 12:20           ` Oliver Neukum
2023-01-03 12:49           ` Takashi Iwai
2023-01-03 12:49             ` Takashi Iwai
2023-01-03 23:45             ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-03 23:45               ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] sound: usb: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  6:48   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  6:48     ` Greg KH
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] usb: core: hcd: Introduce USB HCD APIs for interrupter management Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  8:54   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  8:54     ` Greg KH
2022-12-27 21:13     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:13       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24 15:29   ` Alan Stern
2022-12-24 15:29     ` Alan Stern
2022-12-27 21:07     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:07       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-28  8:59       ` Oliver Neukum
2022-12-28  8:59         ` Oliver Neukum
2022-12-28 15:16         ` Alan Stern
2022-12-28 15:16           ` Alan Stern
2022-12-28 20:31           ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-28 20:31             ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-29  1:41             ` Alan Stern
2022-12-29  1:41               ` Alan Stern
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] usb: host: xhci: Add XHCI secondary interrupter support Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  5:59   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-24  8:55   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  8:55     ` Greg KH
2022-12-28 15:47   ` Mathias Nyman
2022-12-28 15:47     ` Mathias Nyman
2022-12-29 21:14     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-29 21:14       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-02 16:38       ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-02 16:38         ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-09 20:24         ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-09 20:24           ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-10 19:47           ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-10 19:47             ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-10 20:03             ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-10 20:03               ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-11  3:11               ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-11  3:11                 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-12  9:24                 ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-12  9:24                   ` Mathias Nyman
2023-01-13  0:34                   ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-13  0:34                     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] usb: dwc3: Add DT parameter to specify maximum number of interrupters Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24 11:13   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-24 11:13     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2022-12-26 12:28     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-26 12:28       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-27 21:06     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:06       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] sound: usb: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  2:27   ` kernel test robot
2023-01-02 17:28   ` Takashi Iwai
2023-01-02 17:28     ` Takashi Iwai
2023-01-04 22:38     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-04 22:38       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-04 23:51   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-06  1:06     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06  1:06       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] sound: usb: card: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  8:59   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  8:59     ` Greg KH
2022-12-27 21:07     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 21:07       ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 20:31   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] sound: soc: soc-usb: Add PCM format check API for USB backend Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  2:17   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-24  2:17   ` kernel test robot
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] sound: soc: qcom: qusb6: Ensure PCM format is supported by USB audio device Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  8:19   ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-12-24  8:19     ` Sergey Shtylyov
2022-12-24  8:50     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-24  8:50       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-03 17:44   ` Mark Brown
2023-01-03 17:44     ` Mark Brown
2022-12-23 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] ASoC: dt-bindings: Add Q6USB backend bindings Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:31   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-26 12:25   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-26 12:25     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-23 23:32 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2022-12-23 23:32   ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-26 12:27   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-12-26 12:27     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-03 17:46     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-03 17:46       ` Mark Brown
2023-01-05 18:09       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-05 18:09         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-01-04  0:46   ` Rob Herring
2023-01-04  0:46     ` Rob Herring
2022-12-24  6:45 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Greg KH
2022-12-24  6:45   ` Greg KH
2022-12-24  8:49   ` Wesley Cheng [this message]
2022-12-24  8:49     ` Wesley Cheng
2022-12-27 14:36   ` Mark Brown
2022-12-27 14:36     ` Mark Brown
2023-01-04 23:19 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-06  1:05   ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06  1:05     ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-06 15:57     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-01-07  0:46       ` Wesley Cheng
2023-01-07  0:46         ` Wesley Cheng

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