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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, "Yu Zhao" <yuzhao@google.com>
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Subject: Re: OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:12:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b48f5edd-7f6e-48e3-9f72-61cd8e1a21e7@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220831041731.3836322-1-yuzhao@google.com>

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, at 6:17 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>
> Rational
> ========
> 1. OpenWrt is the most popular distro for WiFi routers; many of its
>    targets use big endianness [1].
> 2. 4 out of the top 5 bestselling WiFi routers in the US use MIPS [2];
>    MIPS uses software-managed TLB.
> 3. Memcached is the best available memory benchmark on OpenWrt;
>    admittedly such a use case is very limited in the real world.
>
> Hardware
> ========
> DUT: Ubiquiti EdgeRouter (ER-8) [3]

I don't know if it makes any difference to your findings, but
I would point out the test hardware is neither representative
of most devices supported by OpenWRT, nor those on the amazon
best-seller list that I see looking from Germany:

Five of the top-10 devices on that list are arm64 (little-endian,
hardware TLB walker, typically 512MB of RAM), the others are
mips32 (typically only 128MB, mostly single-core) and only
the oldest one (Archer C7) of them is big-endian. I would not
expect endianness to make any difference, but the 16x smaller
memory of typical mips devices (ath79, mt76) might.

       Arnd

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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, "Yu Zhao" <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: "Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Andi Kleen" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Hillf Danton" <hdanton@sina.com>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Michael Larabel" <Michael@michaellarabel.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Vlastimil Babka" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	page-reclaim@google.com
Subject: Re: OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:12:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b48f5edd-7f6e-48e3-9f72-61cd8e1a21e7@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220831041731.3836322-1-yuzhao@google.com>

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, at 6:17 AM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>
> Rational
> ========
> 1. OpenWrt is the most popular distro for WiFi routers; many of its
>    targets use big endianness [1].
> 2. 4 out of the top 5 bestselling WiFi routers in the US use MIPS [2];
>    MIPS uses software-managed TLB.
> 3. Memcached is the best available memory benchmark on OpenWrt;
>    admittedly such a use case is very limited in the real world.
>
> Hardware
> ========
> DUT: Ubiquiti EdgeRouter (ER-8) [3]

I don't know if it makes any difference to your findings, but
I would point out the test hardware is neither representative
of most devices supported by OpenWRT, nor those on the amazon
best-seller list that I see looking from Germany:

Five of the top-10 devices on that list are arm64 (little-endian,
hardware TLB walker, typically 512MB of RAM), the others are
mips32 (typically only 128MB, mostly single-core) and only
the oldest one (Archer C7) of them is big-endian. I would not
expect endianness to make any difference, but the 16x smaller
memory of typical mips devices (ath79, mt76) might.

       Arnd

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15  7:13 [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 01/14] mm: x86, arm64: add arch_has_hw_pte_young() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 02/14] mm: x86: add CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_NONLEAF_PMD_YOUNG Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 03/14] mm/vmscan.c: refactor shrink_node() Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 04/14] Revert "include/linux/mm_inline.h: fold __update_lru_size() into its sole caller" Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 05/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: groundwork Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 06/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: minimal implementation Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 07/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: exploit locality in rmap Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-01  9:18   ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-01  9:18     ` Nadav Amit
2022-09-02  1:17     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-02  1:17       ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-02  1:28       ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-02  1:28         ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 08/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: support page table walks Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-13 15:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-13 15:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-19  5:51     ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-19  5:51       ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-19 17:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-19 17:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 14:13         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-20 14:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-20 17:29           ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-20 17:29             ` Yu Zhao
2022-10-20 17:35           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 17:35             ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-20 18:55             ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-20 18:55               ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21  2:10               ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21  2:10                 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21  3:38                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-21  3:38                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-10-21 16:50                   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-21 16:50                     ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-23 14:44                     ` David Gow
2022-10-23 14:44                       ` David Gow
2022-10-23 17:55                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-23 17:55                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-23 18:35                       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-23 18:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-10-24  7:30                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-24  7:30                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-25 16:28                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-25 16:28                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-26 15:43                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-26 15:43                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-27 23:08                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-27 23:08                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2022-10-28  7:27                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-28  7:27                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-10-21 10:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-21 10:12                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-10-24 18:20                 ` Gareth Poole
2022-10-24 18:20                   ` Gareth Poole
2022-10-24 19:28                 ` Serentty
2022-10-24 19:28                   ` Serentty
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 09/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: optimize multiple memcgs Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 10/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: kill switch Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 11/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: thrashing prevention Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 12/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: debugfs interface Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 13/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:06   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  9:06     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  9:12   ` Mike Rapoport
2022-08-15  9:12     ` Mike Rapoport
2022-08-17 22:46     ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-17 22:46       ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-20  7:43   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-09-20  7:43     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  7:13 ` [PATCH v14 14/14] mm: multi-gen LRU: design doc Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  7:13   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-15  9:07   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-15  9:07     ` Bagas Sanjaya
2022-08-31  4:17 ` OpenWrt / MIPS benchmark with MGLRU Yu Zhao
2022-08-31  4:17   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-31  9:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-08-31 12:12   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2022-08-31 12:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-08-31 15:13   ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-31 15:13     ` Dave Hansen
2022-08-31 22:18   ` Yu Zhao
2022-08-31 22:18     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-12  0:08 ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton
2022-09-12  0:08   ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-15 17:56   ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-15 17:56     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:40     ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:40       ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47       ` [PATCH v14-fix 01/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: update admin guide Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 02/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_use_mm() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 03/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: warn on !ptep_test_and_clear_young() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47           ` Andrew Morton
2022-09-18 23:53             ` Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 04/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from __rcu Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 05/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fix warning from seq_is_valid() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 06/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete overcautious VM_WARN_ON_ONCE() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 07/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: dial down MAX_LRU_BATCH Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 08/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: delete newline in kswapd_age_node() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 09/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: add comment in lru_gen_look_around() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 10/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: fixed long-tailed direct reclaim latency Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 20:47         ` [PATCH v14-fix 11/11] mm: multi-gen LRU: refactor get_nr_evictable() Yu Zhao
2022-09-18 23:47       ` [PATCH v14 00/14] Multi-Gen LRU Framework Andrew Morton
2022-09-18 23:47         ` Andrew Morton

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