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From: "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	 Andy Shevchenko <andy@kernel.org>
Cc: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Nuno Sa via B4 Relay <devnull+nuno.sa.analog.com@kernel.org>,
	linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org,  devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,  oe-kbuild-all@lists.linux.dev,
	Jean Delvare <jdelvare@suse.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] hwmon: ltc4282: add support for the LTC4282 chip
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 09:35:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c7e7b7bedd5b016a29cc86f767cbec533d727ff4.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cacce41f-f1c0-4f76-ab24-c6ea8bb0303f@roeck-us.net>

On Tue, 2023-11-28 at 10:03 -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 11/28/23 08:50, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > On 27/11/2023 17:03, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 09:12:14AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > > On 27/11/2023 09:10, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > Wait, this was not even unusual test, just standard compile, which means
> > > > you did not do basic tests on your end. You must build your new driver
> > > > with W=1, smatch, sparse and coccinelle before sending upstream.
> > > 
> > > Well, sparse is lagging in development, for the last year it's at least two
> > > times it broke kernel builds because of being not ready for the new stuff used
> > > in the kernel. Do we have anybody to sync this? I don't think so, hence
> > > requiring this from developer is doubtful. Otherwise I agree, that basic
> > > compilation with GCC/LLVM must be done.
> > 
> > Sparse still detects several issues and handles lock annotations, so it
> > is useful. But if you disagree with that part, I still insist on Smatch
> > (which is actively developed and works great) and Coccinelle (also
> > actively developed).
> > 
> 
> Quite frankly, for my part I would be more than happy if people would read
> and follow Documentation/hwmon/submitting-patches.rst. Most submitters don't
> bother. That doesn't even mention building with W=1 (the much more optimistic
> me who wrote that document several years ago thought that would be obvious),
> much less running any source code analysis tools . Feel free to submit a patch
> to strengthen the wording there. If you do that, it would have to be more explicit
> then "run smatch" or "run coccinelle" because hardly anyone would know how
> to do that.
> 

IMO, submitting patches to linux is already not the most straightforward thing in the
world. If we are now going to ask to run smatch, cocci, sparse and so on, we will
scare even more developers from the community... I mean, the bots are also in place
to help with these kind of more advanced analysis, right?

> Until then, there isn't really anything to insist on. I even had submitters
> react angry when I asked them to follow the guidance in that document,
> so I won't insist on anything that isn't documented as requirement.
> Quite frankly, most of the time I'd probably fix up issues such as missing
> "static" myself because I am tired having to argue about it with submitters
> who don't care.
> 

For the record, I do care about the code I submit and missing 'static' is quite
embarrassing, yes. The only reason why I still dind't send the v3 fixing that is
because I'm giving more time to see if you can review some of the other changes. I'm
pretty sure I'll be asked to change more things in v2 (as stated in the cover, there
are still some shady things in the driver).

- Nuno Sá


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-29  8:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-24 14:18 [PATCH v2 0/2] Add support for LTC4282 Nuno Sa via B4 Relay
2023-11-24 14:18 ` Nuno Sa
2023-11-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dt-bindings: hwmon: Add LTC4282 bindings Nuno Sa via B4 Relay
2023-11-24 14:18   ` Nuno Sa
2023-11-25 11:56   ` Conor Dooley
2023-11-27  7:56     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-27 17:33       ` Conor Dooley
2023-11-28 15:37   ` Rob Herring
2023-11-28 15:49     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-24 14:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] hwmon: ltc4282: add support for the LTC4282 chip Nuno Sa via B4 Relay
2023-11-24 14:18   ` Nuno Sa
2023-11-24 21:54   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-24 23:39   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-27  7:53     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-27  8:10       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-27  8:12         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-27  8:44           ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-27 16:03           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-28 16:50             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-28 17:01               ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-28 18:03               ` Guenter Roeck
2023-11-29  8:35                 ` Nuno Sá [this message]
2023-11-29  8:45                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-29  8:56                     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-29 14:10                     ` Linus Walleij
2023-11-29 14:13                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-11-29 14:29                       ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-29 14:47                   ` Guenter Roeck
2023-11-29 16:09                     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-27 10:20   ` kernel test robot
2023-11-29 14:49   ` Linus Walleij
2023-11-29 16:08     ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-29 16:18       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-29 16:21         ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-29 17:07           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-29 20:55       ` Linus Walleij
2023-11-30 10:20         ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-30 13:36           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-11-30 14:39             ` Guenter Roeck
2023-11-30 15:20             ` Nuno Sá
2023-11-30 16:28               ` Guenter Roeck
2023-11-30 20:15               ` Linus Walleij
2023-12-01 12:34                 ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-01 13:40                   ` Linus Walleij
2023-12-01 15:24                     ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-01 15:47                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-01 16:04                         ` Guenter Roeck
2023-12-01 16:24                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-01 16:36                             ` Guenter Roeck
2023-12-01 16:29                           ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-01 16:46                             ` Guenter Roeck
2023-12-02  9:42                               ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-03 23:08                                 ` Linus Walleij
2023-12-04  8:20                                   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2023-12-01 16:19                         ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-01 16:23                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-12-03 23:03                       ` Linus Walleij
2023-12-04  8:53                         ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-14 16:40   ` kernel test robot

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