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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Cupertino Miranda <Cupertino.Miranda@synopsys.com>,
	"cupertinomiranda@gmail.com" <cupertinomiranda@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Shahab Vahedi <shahab.vahedi@gmail.com>,
	Claudiu Zissulescu <Claudiu.Zissulescu@synopsys.com>,
	"linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Claudiu Zissulescu <claziss@gmail.com>,
	Shahab Vahedi <Shahab.Vahedi@synopsys.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/15] arc: TCG and decoder glue code and helpers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:31:09 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e13f0b99-c5d5-4c8b-95c1-1ef79bdfd95a@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1ea9064-dab5-c683-9899-bb19785f8ee4@synopsys.com>

On 1/15/21 7:11 AM, Cupertino Miranda wrote:
>> Similarly.  I think that both of these could be implemented entirely in
>> translate, which is what
>>
>>> +    bool restore_fp    = u7 & 0x10; /* u[4] indicates if fp must be saved  */
>>> +    bool restore_blink = u7 & 0x20; /* u[5] indicates saving of blink      */
>>> +    bool jump_to_blink = u7 & 0x40; /* u[6] should we jump to blink?       */
>>
>> these bits strongly imply.
>>
> 
> For lack of knowing better, it is unclear to me where to draw the line 
> when choosing between a translate time (tcg) or helper implementation.
> Your suggestions for carry/overflow computation are sharp and we should 
> have never used an helper, however I wonder what would be the benefit of 
> implementing enter and leave through TCG.
> 
> We have dealt with those exception issues by just changing SP in the end 
> of the instruction implementation, when no exceptions can happen.

5-10 tcg opcodes is the rule of thumb.  A conditional exception (requiring a
branch) is a good reason to put the whole thing out of line.

In the case of enter or leave, this is one load/store plus one addition,
followed by a branch.  All of which is encoded as fields in the instruction.
Extremely simple.

> As far as I understand when an exception happens in the middle of the 
> helper or even on a TCG implementation, it jumps out of that TB 
> execution to deal with the exception. On rtie instead of it returning to 
> the same tcg_ld or tcg_st where it actually triggered the exception it 
> will re-decode the same instruction which triggered the exception, and 
> re-attempts to execute it.
> Is that the case in current TCG implementation, or did it improved and 
> it is now able to return to previous execution flow (i.e translation 
> block) ?

I think I don't understand your question.

An exception leaves the TB, via longjmp.  Before the longjmp, there is normally
an "unwind" or "restore" operation, to sync the cpu state with the middle of
the TB.  This happens in restore_state_to_opc().

When processing of the exception is complete, execution will continue with the
appropriate cpu state.  Which will probably be a new TB that (logically)
partially overlaps the previous TB.

I.e. everything will work as you'd expect.

So... what's the question?


r~


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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: Cupertino Miranda <Cupertino.Miranda@synopsys.com>,
	"cupertinomiranda@gmail.com" <cupertinomiranda@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Shahab Vahedi <shahab.vahedi@gmail.com>,
	Claudiu Zissulescu <Claudiu.Zissulescu@synopsys.com>,
	"linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Claudiu Zissulescu <claziss@gmail.com>,
	Shahab Vahedi <Shahab.Vahedi@synopsys.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/15] arc: TCG and decoder glue code and helpers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 10:31:09 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e13f0b99-c5d5-4c8b-95c1-1ef79bdfd95a@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1ea9064-dab5-c683-9899-bb19785f8ee4@synopsys.com>

On 1/15/21 7:11 AM, Cupertino Miranda wrote:
>> Similarly.  I think that both of these could be implemented entirely in
>> translate, which is what
>>
>>> +    bool restore_fp    = u7 & 0x10; /* u[4] indicates if fp must be saved  */
>>> +    bool restore_blink = u7 & 0x20; /* u[5] indicates saving of blink      */
>>> +    bool jump_to_blink = u7 & 0x40; /* u[6] should we jump to blink?       */
>>
>> these bits strongly imply.
>>
> 
> For lack of knowing better, it is unclear to me where to draw the line 
> when choosing between a translate time (tcg) or helper implementation.
> Your suggestions for carry/overflow computation are sharp and we should 
> have never used an helper, however I wonder what would be the benefit of 
> implementing enter and leave through TCG.
> 
> We have dealt with those exception issues by just changing SP in the end 
> of the instruction implementation, when no exceptions can happen.

5-10 tcg opcodes is the rule of thumb.  A conditional exception (requiring a
branch) is a good reason to put the whole thing out of line.

In the case of enter or leave, this is one load/store plus one addition,
followed by a branch.  All of which is encoded as fields in the instruction.
Extremely simple.

> As far as I understand when an exception happens in the middle of the 
> helper or even on a TCG implementation, it jumps out of that TB 
> execution to deal with the exception. On rtie instead of it returning to 
> the same tcg_ld or tcg_st where it actually triggered the exception it 
> will re-decode the same instruction which triggered the exception, and 
> re-attempts to execute it.
> Is that the case in current TCG implementation, or did it improved and 
> it is now able to return to previous execution flow (i.e translation 
> block) ?

I think I don't understand your question.

An exception leaves the TB, via longjmp.  Before the longjmp, there is normally
an "unwind" or "restore" operation, to sync the cpu state with the middle of
the TB.  This happens in restore_state_to_opc().

When processing of the exception is complete, execution will continue with the
appropriate cpu state.  Which will probably be a new TB that (logically)
partially overlaps the previous TB.

I.e. everything will work as you'd expect.

So... what's the question?


r~



  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-15 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 16:17 [PATCH 00/15] *** ARC port for review *** cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 01/15] arc: Add initial core cpu files cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-12-01 19:06   ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-01 19:06     ` Richard Henderson
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 02/15] arc: Decoder code cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 03/15] arc: Opcode definitions table cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-12-01 20:22   ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-01 20:22     ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 17:11     ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 17:11       ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 19:52       ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 19:52         ` Richard Henderson
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 04/15] arc: TCG and decoder glue code and helpers cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-12-01 21:35   ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-01 21:35     ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 17:11     ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 17:11       ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 20:31       ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2021-01-15 20:31         ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 21:48         ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 21:48           ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 21:53           ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 21:53             ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 22:06             ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 22:06               ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 21:28     ` Shahab Vahedi
2021-01-15 21:28       ` Shahab Vahedi
2021-01-15 21:51       ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 21:51         ` Richard Henderson
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 05/15] arc: TCG instruction generator and hand-definitions cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-12-01 22:16   ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-01 22:16     ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 17:11     ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 17:11       ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 20:17       ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 20:17         ` Richard Henderson
2021-01-15 21:38         ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 21:38           ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 06/15] arc: TCG instruction definitions cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-12-01 23:09   ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-01 23:09     ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-02 12:55     ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-12-02 12:55       ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-12-03 16:07       ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-03 16:07         ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-03 16:54         ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-12-03 16:54           ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-12-03 19:34           ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-03 19:34             ` Richard Henderson
2020-12-03 19:51             ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-12-03 19:51               ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 17:11     ` Cupertino Miranda
2021-01-15 17:11       ` Cupertino Miranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 07/15] arc: Add BCR and AUX registers implementation cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 08/15] arc: Add IRQ and timer subsystem support cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 09/15] arc: Add memory management unit (MMU) support cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 10/15] arc: Add memory protection unit (MPU) support cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 11/15] arc: Add gdbstub and XML for debugging support cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 12/15] arc: Add Synopsys ARC emulation boards cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 13/15] arc: Add support for ARCv2 cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 14/15] tests/tcg: ARC: Add TCG instruction definition tests cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17 ` [PATCH 15/15] tests/acceptance: ARC: Add linux boot testing cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:17   ` cupertinomiranda
2020-11-11 16:43 ` [PATCH 00/15] *** ARC port for review *** no-reply
2020-11-11 16:43   ` no-reply

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