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From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
To: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sctp_do_sm
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 10:51:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ttwnyus8l.fsf@aconole.bos.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5661B336.8090007@gmail.com> (Vlad Yasevich's message of "Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:37:26 -0500")

Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com> writes:
> On 12/04/2015 07:55 AM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 11:40:02AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
>>>> (adding lkml as this is likely better discussed there)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:42 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>> On 12/03/2015 03:24 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:10 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/03/2015 03:03 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:32 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2015 01:52 PM, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I think that as a minimum, the following patch should be evaluted,
>>>>>>>>>> but am unsure to whom I should submit it (after I test):
>>>>>>>> []
>>>>>>>>> Agreed - the intention here is certainly to have no side effects. It
>>>>>>>>> looks like 'no_printk()' is used in quite a few other places that would
>>>>>>>>> benefit from this change. So we probably want a generic
>>>>>>>>> 'really_no_printk()' macro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/17/231
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see this in the tree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It never got applied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also maybe we should just convert
>>>>>>> no_printk() to do what your 'eliminated_printk()'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of them at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we can convert all users with this change?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so, I think there are some
>>>>>> function evaluation/side effects that are
>>>>>> required.  I believe some do hardware I/O.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be good to at least isolate them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to find them via some
>>>>>> automated tool/mechanism though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked Julia Lawall about it once in this
>>>>>> thread:  https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/3/696
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems rather fragile to have side effects that we rely
>>>>> upon hidden in a printk().
>>>>
>>>> Yup.
>>>>
>>>>> Just convert them and see what breaks :)
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your optimism.  It's very 1995.
>>>> Try it and see what happens.
>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever is the resolution for pr_debug, we still need to fix this
>>> particular use-after-free. It affects stability of debug builds, gives
>>> invalid debug output, prevents us from finding more bugs in SCTP. And
>>> maybe somebody uses CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG in production.
>> 
>> Agreed. I'm already working on a fix for this particular use-after-free.
>> 
>> Another interesting thing about this is that sctp_do_sm() is called for
>> nearly every movement that happens on a sctp socket. Said that, that
>> always-running IDR search hidden on that debug statement do have some
>> nasty performance impact, specially because it's serialized on a
>> spinlock.
>
> YUCK!  I didn't really pay much attention to those debug macros before, but
> debug_post_sfx() is truly awful.
>
> This wasn't such a bad thing where these macros depended on CONFIG_SCTP_DEBUG,
> but now that they are always built, we need fix them.

I've proposed a patch to linux-kernel to fix them, but I don't think
it's really as bad as folks imagine. Ubuntu, RHEL, and Fedora all use
DYNAMIC_DEBUG configuration option, which means that the code is getting
emitted anyway (correctly, I'll add) and is shunted out by a dynamic
debug flag. So for the average user, it's not even really a blip.

That does mean there's a cool side-effect of the entire print-macro setup
which implies we execute less code when running with DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y in
the "normal" case. "Turn on the dynamic debugging config and watch
everything get better" isn't the worst mantra, is it? :)

> -vlad
>
>
>
>> This wouldn't be happening if it was fully ellided and would
>> be ok if that pr_debug() was really being printed, but not as it is.
>> Kudos to this report that I could notice this. I'm trying to fix this on
>> SCTP-side as well.
>> 
>>   Marcelo
>> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
To: Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcelo Ricardo Leitner <marcelo.leitner@gmail.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: use-after-free in sctp_do_sm
Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 15:51:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7ttwnyus8l.fsf@aconole.bos.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5661B336.8090007@gmail.com> (Vlad Yasevich's message of "Fri, 4 Dec 2015 10:37:26 -0500")

Vlad Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com> writes:
> On 12/04/2015 07:55 AM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 11:40:02AM +0100, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote:
>>>> (adding lkml as this is likely better discussed there)
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:42 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>> On 12/03/2015 03:24 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 15:10 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>>>> On 12/03/2015 03:03 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-12-03 at 14:32 -0500, Jason Baron wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 12/03/2015 01:52 PM, Aaron Conole wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I think that as a minimum, the following patch should be evaluted,
>>>>>>>>>> but am unsure to whom I should submit it (after I test):
>>>>>>>> []
>>>>>>>>> Agreed - the intention here is certainly to have no side effects. It
>>>>>>>>> looks like 'no_printk()' is used in quite a few other places that would
>>>>>>>>> benefit from this change. So we probably want a generic
>>>>>>>>> 'really_no_printk()' macro.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/6/17/231
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see this in the tree.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It never got applied.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also maybe we should just convert
>>>>>>> no_printk() to do what your 'eliminated_printk()'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of them at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So we can convert all users with this change?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think so, I think there are some
>>>>>> function evaluation/side effects that are
>>>>>> required.  I believe some do hardware I/O.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It'd be good to at least isolate them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how to find them via some
>>>>>> automated tool/mechanism though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked Julia Lawall about it once in this
>>>>>> thread:  https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/12/3/696
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems rather fragile to have side effects that we rely
>>>>> upon hidden in a printk().
>>>>
>>>> Yup.
>>>>
>>>>> Just convert them and see what breaks :)
>>>>
>>>> I appreciate your optimism.  It's very 1995.
>>>> Try it and see what happens.
>>>
>>>
>>> Whatever is the resolution for pr_debug, we still need to fix this
>>> particular use-after-free. It affects stability of debug builds, gives
>>> invalid debug output, prevents us from finding more bugs in SCTP. And
>>> maybe somebody uses CONFIG_DYNAMIC_DEBUG in production.
>> 
>> Agreed. I'm already working on a fix for this particular use-after-free.
>> 
>> Another interesting thing about this is that sctp_do_sm() is called for
>> nearly every movement that happens on a sctp socket. Said that, that
>> always-running IDR search hidden on that debug statement do have some
>> nasty performance impact, specially because it's serialized on a
>> spinlock.
>
> YUCK!  I didn't really pay much attention to those debug macros before, but
> debug_post_sfx() is truly awful.
>
> This wasn't such a bad thing where these macros depended on CONFIG_SCTP_DEBUG,
> but now that they are always built, we need fix them.

I've proposed a patch to linux-kernel to fix them, but I don't think
it's really as bad as folks imagine. Ubuntu, RHEL, and Fedora all use
DYNAMIC_DEBUG configuration option, which means that the code is getting
emitted anyway (correctly, I'll add) and is shunted out by a dynamic
debug flag. So for the average user, it's not even really a blip.

That does mean there's a cool side-effect of the entire print-macro setup
which implies we execute less code when running with DYNAMIC_DEBUG=y in
the "normal" case. "Turn on the dynamic debugging config and watch
everything get better" isn't the worst mantra, is it? :)

> -vlad
>
>
>
>> This wouldn't be happening if it was fully ellided and would
>> be ok if that pr_debug() was really being printed, but not as it is.
>> Kudos to this report that I could notice this. I'm trying to fix this on
>> SCTP-side as well.
>> 
>>   Marcelo
>> 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-04 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 153+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-24  9:15 use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24  9:15 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24  9:31 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24  9:31   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 10:10   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 10:10     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-24 20:45     ` Neil Horman
2015-11-24 20:45       ` Neil Horman
2015-11-24 21:08       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 21:08         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 21:12       ` David Miller
2015-11-24 21:12         ` David Miller
2015-11-25 15:12       ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-11-25 15:12         ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-11-28 15:50         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-11-28 15:50           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 16:51           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 16:51             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:43             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:43               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:59               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:59                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 18:06                 ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:06                   ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:35                   ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-03 18:35                     ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-03 18:43                     ` Marcelo
2015-12-03 18:43                       ` Marcelo
2015-12-04 17:14                       ` [PATCH net 0/3] sctp: packet timestamp fixes Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14                         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14                         ` [PATCH net 1/3] sctp: use the same clock as if sock source timestamps were on Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14                           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:31                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:31                             ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 17:14                         ` [PATCH net 2/3] sctp: update the netstamp_needed counter when copying sockets Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14                           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:33                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:33                             ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 17:14                         ` [PATCH net 3/3] sctp: also copy sk_tsflags when copying the socket Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:14                           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:33                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 20:33                             ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-06  3:24                         ` [PATCH net 0/3] sctp: packet timestamp fixes David Miller
2015-12-06  3:24                           ` David Miller
2015-12-03 13:05 ` use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 13:05   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 13:45   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 13:45     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 14:48     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 14:48       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 15:55       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 15:55         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 16:15         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 16:15           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-03 17:02         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:02           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 17:12           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 17:12             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-03 18:52             ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-03 18:52               ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-03 19:06               ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 19:06                 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 19:32               ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 19:32                 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:03                 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:03                   ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:10                   ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:10                     ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:24                     ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:24                       ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:42                       ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:42                         ` Jason Baron
2015-12-03 20:51                         ` Joe Perches
2015-12-03 20:51                           ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 10:40                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 10:40                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 12:55                             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 12:55                               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 15:37                               ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 15:37                                 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-04 15:51                                 ` Aaron Conole [this message]
2015-12-04 15:51                                   ` Aaron Conole
2015-12-04 16:12                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 16:12                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 16:47                             ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 16:47                               ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 17:03                               ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 17:03                                 ` Joe Perches
2015-12-04 17:11                                 ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 17:11                                   ` Jason Baron
2015-12-04 10:41           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 10:41             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 17:48     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 17:48       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 20:25       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 20:25         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 21:34         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 21:34           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-04 21:38           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-04 21:38             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-05 16:39           ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-05 16:39             ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 11:26             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 11:26               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 13:15               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 13:15                 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 13:20                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 13:20                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-07 18:52                   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 18:52                     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 19:33                     ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 19:33                       ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 19:50                       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 19:50                         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 20:37                         ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 20:37                           ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-07 20:52                           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-07 20:52                             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 17:30                             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 17:30                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 17:40                               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 17:40                                 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-08 19:22                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-08 19:22                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 14:41                                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 14:41                                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-09 15:03                                     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 15:03                                       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 16:41                                       ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-09 16:41                                         ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 13:35                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 13:35                                           ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 13:51                                           ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 13:51                                             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:03                                             ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:03                                               ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 14:30                                               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 14:30                                                 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 15:55                                                 ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2015-12-11 15:55                                                   ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-08 13:00                                                   ` [PATCH] sctp: fix use-after-free in pr_debug statement Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-08 13:00                                                     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
2016-01-11 17:00                                                     ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11 17:00                                                       ` Vlad Yasevich
2016-01-11 22:13                                                     ` David Miller
2016-01-11 22:13                                                       ` David Miller
2016-01-12  8:41                                                       ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-01-12  8:41                                                         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2015-12-11 18:37                                               ` use-after-free in sctp_do_sm Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-11 18:37                                                 ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-14  9:50                                                 ` David Laight
2015-12-14 14:25                                                   ` Vlad Yasevich
2015-12-14 14:25                                                     ` Vlad Yasevich

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