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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 22/23] sysctl arm: Remove binary sysctl support
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:31:51 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m18wedeqqw.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091109154621.GG26740@basil.fritz.box> (Andi Kleen's message of "Mon\, 9 Nov 2009 16\:46\:21 +0100")

Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org> writes:

>> Can you name one binary sysctl value that gets accessed more
>> than a few times during the execution of a vaguely common
>> application? We're talking about microseconds for typically
>> write-once or read-once settings.
>
> For example shell scripts tend to execute programs quite a lot.
>
>> The question is just how many sysctl values you regard as both
>> common and performance critical.
>
> Very little, I suspect in fact it's only one.

I just took a second look, attempting to figure out how much startup
overhead my sysctl used.  I failed because I don't have a user space
old enough that it calls sysctl. I had to go back all of the way to
glibc-2.4 to find a version of nptl that calls sysctl at startup.
glibc-2.5 on i386 uses uname and all other architectures uses either
assumes smp is true or false without performing a system call.

I don't believe an inuse version of glibc exists that uses sysctl
except the ioperm implementation on arm.  So I can't see how being
a little slower will impact anyone.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-11  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-08 12:16 [PATCH 00/23] Removal of binary sysctl support Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 01/23] sysctl: Remove the unused frv sysctl unumbers Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 02/23] sysctl: Stop using binary sysctl numbers in arlan Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-11 21:07   ` John W. Linville
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 03/23] sysctl: Reduce sys_sysctl to a compatibility wrapper around /proc/sys Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 04/23] sysctl: Neuter the generic sysctl strategy routines Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 05/23] sysctl: Remove dead code from sysctl_check Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 06/23] sysctl: Remove references to ctl_name and strategy from the generic sysctl table Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 07/23] sysctl: Don't look at ctl_name and strategy in the generic code Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 08/23] sysctl ipc: Remove dead binary sysctl support code Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 09/23] sysctl net: Remove unused binary sysctl code Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 10/23] sysctl fs: Remove dead binary sysctl support Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 11/23] sysctl kernel: Remove binary sysctl logic Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:21 ` [PATCH 12/23] sysctl security/keys: Remove dead binary sysctl support Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 13/23] sysctl crypto: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 15:44   ` Herbert Xu
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 14/23] sysctl drivers: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09  8:17   ` Clemens Ladisch
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 15/23] sysctl mips/lasat: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 14:10   ` Ralf Baechle
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 16/23] sysctl frv: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 17/23] sysctl s390: Remove dead sysctl binary support Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 18/23] sysctl ia64: Remove dead binary sysctl support Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 19/23] sysctl powerpc: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 20:44   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 20/23] sysctl sh: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 21/23] sysctl x86: " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 22/23] sysctl arm: Remove " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:34   ` Russell King
2009-11-08 22:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 22:56       ` Russell King
2009-11-08 23:31         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 23:34           ` Russell King
2009-11-08 23:05       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09  0:48         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-09  3:27           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09  4:57             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-11-09  5:37               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09  9:38                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-09 11:45                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 12:04                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-09 12:41                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-09 13:28                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-09 15:28                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-09 15:46                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-11-09 16:23                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-10  4:42                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-10  8:01                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-11  2:31                               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-11-09 12:42                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 12:22 ` [PATCH 23/23] sysctl: Remove the last of the generic " Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-08 13:06 ` [PATCH 00/23] Removal of " Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-09  3:44   ` Eric W. Biederman

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