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From: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: "David Masover" <ninja@slaphack.com>,
	"Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
	"Markus  \"T\x16rnqvist\"" <mjt@nysv.org>,
	"Christophe Saout" <christophe@saout.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
	hch@infradead.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:31:07 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1slz8oxlg.fsf@clusterfs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42BBAA0F.2020404@namesys.com> (Hans Reiser's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:37:03 -0700")

Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> writes:

> Nikita, I respectfully disagree with what you say about the state of our
> atomicity code.   It is not so far away as you describe, and probably 6
> man weeks work could polish it off.  You don't see the value in what I
> define as useful, namely atomicity without isolation.  Since you don't
> see that, it is harder for you to see that something is close to working
> and just needs 6 weeks of someone who groks what I am asking for.

No, I see the value of "atomicity", and think it is very useful. What I
don't see the value of is the making of premature claims.

_When_ reiser4 has atomic write(2), you have full right to call it
atomic, not before.

_When_ reiser4 is tested through objective benchmark-set exercising
various workloads, you can refer to these benchmarks as the proof of
reiser4 technical superiority, not before.

On a more personal note, I invested large amount of my time and effort
into developing reiser4, and I feel attached to it and to the great
ideas embodied in it. For reiser4 to rot on the forgotten shelf in
obscurity is the thing I want least. I want it to be included into
mainline kernel, but for this to happen, you have to take more realistic
stance towards err... reality.

>
> Hans

Nikita.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>
To: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
Cc: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>,
	"Artem B. Bityuckiy" <dedekind@yandex.ru>,
	Markus T\x16rnqvist <mjt@nysv.org>,
	Christophe Saout <christophe@saout.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	hch@infradead.org, jgarzik@pobox.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: reiser4 plugins
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 14:31:07 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1slz8oxlg.fsf@clusterfs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42BBAA0F.2020404@namesys.com> (Hans Reiser's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2005 23:37:03 -0700")

Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com> writes:

> Nikita, I respectfully disagree with what you say about the state of our
> atomicity code.   It is not so far away as you describe, and probably 6
> man weeks work could polish it off.  You don't see the value in what I
> define as useful, namely atomicity without isolation.  Since you don't
> see that, it is harder for you to see that something is close to working
> and just needs 6 weeks of someone who groks what I am asking for.

No, I see the value of "atomicity", and think it is very useful. What I
don't see the value of is the making of premature claims.

_When_ reiser4 has atomic write(2), you have full right to call it
atomic, not before.

_When_ reiser4 is tested through objective benchmark-set exercising
various workloads, you can refer to these benchmarks as the proof of
reiser4 technical superiority, not before.

On a more personal note, I invested large amount of my time and effort
into developing reiser4, and I feel attached to it and to the great
ideas embodied in it. For reiser4 to rot on the forgotten shelf in
obscurity is the thing I want least. I want it to be included into
mainline kernel, but for this to happen, you have to take more realistic
stance towards err... reality.

>
> Hans

Nikita.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-24 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 631+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-21  6:54 -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 10:22 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (fuse) Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-21 12:39   ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-21 14:28   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-21 14:51     ` John Stoffel
2005-06-21 15:17       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-21 15:13     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-21 22:06       ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22  6:20         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22  6:39           ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  7:16             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22  7:49               ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  9:07                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22  9:12                   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  9:20                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22  9:44                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  9:58                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22 10:19                           ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22 10:31                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22 12:23                           ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-22 16:28                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22 16:48                               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-22 17:19                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-22  9:17                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22 17:01               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-22 17:48                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-23 23:34                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-24  5:49                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-26  3:04                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-24 16:00             ` Gábor Lénárt
2005-06-22  8:53           ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22 12:57         ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-22 14:43         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-22 15:08           ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-22 15:50             ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-22 16:34               ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-22 16:43               ` Alan Cox
2005-06-22 16:56                 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-21 15:26   ` Avuton Olrich
2005-06-21 15:36     ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-06-21 12:01 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andrey Panin
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 13:07   ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22 10:50     ` Erik Slagter
2005-06-21 12:43 ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-21 12:58 ` Jörn Engel
2005-06-21 13:08 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (Suspend-to-disk) Nigel Cunningham
2005-06-21  9:44   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2005-06-21 14:16   ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-21 13:51 ` v9fs (-mm -> 2.6.13 merge status) Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-06-21 15:35   ` Uriel
2005-06-22  5:13     ` Martin Atkins
     [not found]   ` <a4e6962a05062112206e823c0a@mail.gmail.com>
2005-06-21 20:52     ` Fwd: " Ronald G. Minnich
2005-06-21 14:08 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 19:54   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:00     ` Martin Hicks
2005-06-21 14:19 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (wireless) Pavel Machek
2005-06-21 20:02   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  3:26     ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:26 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 15:39   ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:22     ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 19:38       ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 19:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:02         ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-21 20:06           ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:07             ` Robert Love
2005-06-21 20:10               ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 20:15                 ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-22  5:53                 ` Matthias Urlichs
2005-06-21 22:54             ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 20:52           ` Stephen Hemminger
2005-06-21 22:45       ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-21 23:30         ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 23:39           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  6:19             ` Christoph Lameter
2005-06-21 15:43   ` Matt Porter
2005-06-21 19:41   ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 20:05   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22  1:07       ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  1:14         ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  4:25           ` David Masover
2005-06-22  5:11             ` Bedros Hanounik
2005-06-22  5:18             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-22  8:27               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  9:08               ` David Masover
2005-06-22 14:28                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-22 16:13                   ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-22 16:59                     ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-26 17:02                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27  9:30                   ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-06-27  9:42                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 11:28                       ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-06-27 19:22                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-28 14:01                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-28 18:52                       ` Sean
2005-06-28 19:28                         ` David Masover
2005-06-23  5:58               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23  6:26                 ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-23 14:11                 ` David Masover
2005-06-23 19:24                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-23 20:12                     ` Adrian Ulrich
2005-06-23 20:12                       ` Adrian Ulrich
2005-06-23 20:49                       ` Michael Dreher
2005-06-23 21:54                         ` M.
2005-06-23 23:37                         ` Alan Cox
2005-06-23 23:57                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  0:16                           ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-06-24  8:52                             ` zhilla
2005-06-28 11:14                           ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-23 21:29                       ` Avuton Olrich
2005-06-23 21:36                         ` Dan Oglesby
2005-06-24  1:19                         ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-23 22:04                     ` David Masover
2005-06-23 23:43                       ` Alan Cox
2005-06-24  1:12                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  1:45                           ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-24  2:31                           ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-24  3:21                             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-24  6:49                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  7:10                               ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-24  8:23                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  8:40                                   ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-24 15:32                                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-27 19:39                                     ` Tyson Whitehead
2005-06-24  9:35                                 ` Timothy Webster
2005-06-24 15:45                                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-24 17:13                                     ` Perry Kundert
2005-06-24 20:01                                       ` Fwd: " Perry Kundert
2005-06-24 21:38                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-24 22:20                                         ` Perry Kundert
2005-06-25  0:37                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-25  0:53                                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25  2:20                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-25  2:40                                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-25  2:49                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-24  7:11                               ` Al Viro
2005-06-24  9:03                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 14:45                                   ` Al Viro
2005-06-24 14:53                                     ` Al Viro
2005-06-24 18:16                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 10:41                           ` Alan Cox
2005-06-27  9:18                             ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-27  9:18                               ` mjt
2005-06-27  9:46                               ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-27 12:55                                 ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-27 12:55                                   ` mjt
2005-06-28  0:23                                   ` Nick Piggin
2005-06-28 20:39                                     ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-28 20:39                                       ` mjt
2005-06-30 23:20                                   ` Jesper Juhl
2005-06-27 14:01                               ` Alan Cox
2005-06-27 14:01                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-06-24  3:17                         ` David Masover
2005-06-24  3:34                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-25  3:38                             ` David Masover
2005-06-27  9:21                             ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-27  9:21                               ` mjt
2005-06-27 12:42                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-27 15:19                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-27 16:28                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-27 21:12                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-30 21:49                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-30 22:34                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-07-01  7:03                                           ` backup (was Re: reiser4 plugins) David Masover
2005-07-01 14:19                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-07-01 19:49                                               ` David Masover
2005-07-01  8:08                                           ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2005-07-01  8:06                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 19:46                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 20:18                                   ` Steve Lord
2005-06-27 20:28                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-27 20:47                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 20:58                                       ` Steve Lord
2005-06-27 23:06                                         ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-06-28  0:40                                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-28  1:00                                             ` Zan Lynx
2005-06-28  1:10                                             ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-06-28 20:15                                               ` David Masover
2005-06-28  1:07                                           ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-28  4:03                                             ` Prakash Punnoor
2005-06-28  4:19                                               ` Jim Crilly
2005-06-28  6:37                                     ` Al Boldi
2005-06-27 21:26                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-27 23:00                                     ` reiser4 merging action list Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 23:23                                       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-29  5:41                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-29  6:18                                           ` Pekka Enberg
2005-06-29 22:59                                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-28  9:41                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-28  9:48                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-06-28  0:06                                     ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2005-06-28 13:44                               ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-28 13:44                                 ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-28 20:47                                 ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-28 20:47                                   ` mjt
2005-06-28 21:48                                   ` Jake Maciejewski
2005-06-24 11:34                           ` Alan Cox
2005-06-24 19:21                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24 22:04                               ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-24 23:06                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2005-06-25  0:35                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26 17:20                               ` Alan Cox
2005-06-26 17:38                                 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2005-06-29 16:44                                 ` torturing filesystems [was Re: reiser4 plugins] Pavel Machek
2005-06-25  3:14                             ` reiser4 plugins David Masover
2005-06-25  3:18                               ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-25  4:31                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25  4:43                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-06-25  6:01                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25  4:49                                   ` David Masover
2005-06-25  6:15                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25  6:38                                       ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-06-25  6:47                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-25  7:33                                       ` Bob R. Taylor
2005-06-25 14:45                                   ` Diego Calleja
2005-06-29  2:07                                     ` Matthew Frost
2005-06-25  5:26                               ` Jesper Krogh
2005-06-25  5:26                                 ` Jesper Krogh
2005-06-25  7:46                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-26 17:23                               ` Alan Cox
2005-06-24 12:49                           ` Olivier Galibert
2005-06-25  2:52                             ` David Masover
2005-06-29 16:36                             ` Pavel Machek
2005-06-24 19:46                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 20:52                             ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 21:07                               ` David Masover
2005-06-28  8:32                                 ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-28 19:14                                   ` David Masover
2005-06-24  1:02                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  2:41                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-24 18:42                         ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-24 18:42                           ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-25  4:10                         ` David Masover
2005-06-25 14:20                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-25 18:33                             ` David Masover
2005-06-25 20:31                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-25 20:52                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26  4:59                                   ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-26  5:07                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-06-26  7:16                                       ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-26  7:48                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-26  8:26                                           ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-26  9:35                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-26 18:16                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-26 19:58                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-26 21:05                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-26 22:35                                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-26 23:43                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27  0:16                                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-27  0:36                                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  3:48                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27  5:05                                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-27  5:52                                                         ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-06-27  6:22                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27  0:40                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  2:37                                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-27  3:10                                                       ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-27  3:24                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27  3:40                                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-27 21:19                                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-27 23:03                                                               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-27 23:27                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-28  2:21                                                                   ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28  2:59                                                                     ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28  3:45                                                                       ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28  4:38                                                                         ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28  5:30                                                                           ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28  6:01                                                                             ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 17:51                                                                               ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28 19:32                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-28 19:57                                                                                   ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28 19:57                                                                                     ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28 20:03                                                                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-28 19:59                                                                                 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-29  1:40                                                                                   ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-29  5:09                                                                                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-29 13:50                                                                                       ` Douglas McNaught
2005-06-29 13:58                                                                                         ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-29 13:58                                                                                           ` mjt
2005-06-29 17:19                                                                                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-29 17:19                                                                                             ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-29 20:57                                                                                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-29 20:57                                                                                               ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-30  9:59                                                                                             ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-30  9:59                                                                                               ` mjt
     [not found]                                                                                               ` <17091.60930.633968.822210@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2005-06-30 14:21                                                                                                 ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-30 14:21                                                                                                   ` mjt
     [not found]                                                                                                   ` <17092.3415.28856.827179@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2005-06-30 15:37                                                                                                     ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-30 15:37                                                                                                       ` mjt
2005-06-30 19:45                                                                                                       ` Diego Calleja
2005-06-30 19:45                                                                                                         ` Diego Calleja
2005-06-30 19:52                                                                                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-30 19:52                                                                                                         ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-05 20:46                                                                                                         ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-10  0:00                                                                                                           ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-07-11 12:28                                                                                                             ` Jaroslav Soltys
2005-07-11 23:17                                                                                                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-01  8:16                                                                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-29 19:05                                                                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-29 19:05                                                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-29 20:56                                                                                           ` David Weinehall
2005-06-29 23:05                                                                                             ` Chet Hosey
2005-06-30 10:01                                                                                             ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-30 10:01                                                                                               ` mjt
2005-06-30 12:45                                                                                               ` Linux and Plan-9ness Al Boldi
2005-06-30 12:45                                                                                                 ` Al Boldi
2005-06-30 14:08                                                                                                 ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-30 14:08                                                                                                   ` mjt
2005-07-04 17:18                                                                                                 ` studdugie
2005-06-30 19:57                                                                                               ` reiser4 plugins Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-01  8:08                                                                                             ` David Masover
2005-07-01 15:54                                                                                               ` David Weinehall
2005-07-01 19:55                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-02  1:48                                                                                                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-04  3:42                                                                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-04  7:17                                                                                                       ` malcolm
2005-07-04  7:22                                                                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-04  9:16                                                                                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-04 18:47                                                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-07-04 20:32                                                                                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-05 22:31                                                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-07-05 22:43                                                                                                           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-05 22:52                                                                                                             ` David Masover
2005-07-05 23:12                                                                                                               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-06  0:31                                                                                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06  8:56                                                                                                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-07  8:27                                                                                                 ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-07-07  8:27                                                                                                   ` mjt
2005-07-07 14:00                                                                                                   ` David Masover
2005-07-07 17:47                                                                                                     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2005-06-29 20:40                                                                                       ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-29 21:34                                                                                         ` Ross Biro
2005-06-29 23:29                                                                                           ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-01  8:06                                                                                             ` David Masover
2005-07-01  8:17                                                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-01  8:27                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-01  8:44                                                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-05 21:01                                                                                               ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-05 22:01                                                                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-05 22:21                                                                                                   ` David Masover
2005-07-05 22:51                                                                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-05 23:00                                                                                                       ` David Masover
2005-07-05 23:47                                                                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06  0:15                                                                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06 14:01                                                                                                             ` David Masover
2005-07-11  4:07                                                                                                               ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-07-11 20:50                                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-11 20:54                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-07-11 22:58                                                                                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-12  2:33                                                                                                                       ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-12  5:10                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Traby
2005-07-12  5:53                                                                                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-12 23:22                                                                                                                           ` David Masover
2005-07-12 23:38                                                                                                                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-13  3:43                                                                                                                               ` David Masover
2005-07-13  2:09                                                                                                                             ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-12  1:53                                                                                                                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-12  7:19                                                                                                                   ` Neil Brown
2005-07-12  7:45                                                                                                                     ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-13  0:05                                                                                                                       ` Neil Brown
2005-07-13  1:20                                                                                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-12 23:13                                                                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-07-12 23:40                                                                                                                       ` Neil Brown
2005-07-05 23:56                                                                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06  0:50                                                                                                           ` Alexander G. M. Smith
2005-07-06  1:16                                                                                                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-06  6:44                                                                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06 13:09                                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-06 13:43                                                                                                                   ` Adrian Ulrich
2005-07-06 14:11                                                                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-07-06 14:55                                                                                                                       ` Adrian Ulrich
2005-07-06 18:07                                                                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06 20:47                                                                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-07-06 22:49                                                                                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06 18:52                                                                                                                 ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-07-06 19:51                                                                                                                   ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-06 20:33                                                                                                                     ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-07-06 20:53                                                                                                                       ` David Masover
2005-07-06 21:28                                                                                                                         ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-07-06 20:57                                                                                                                       ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-06 20:33                                                                                                                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-06 21:31                                                                                                                       ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-07  2:33                                                                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-07-07  3:13                                                                                                                           ` Jan Harkes
2005-07-07  6:42                                                                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-08 16:39                                                                                                                     ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-08 16:45                                                                                                                       ` David Masover
2005-07-06  1:59                                                                                                           ` Neil Brown
2005-07-06 16:06                                                                                                             ` Nate Diller
2005-07-06 18:13                                                                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06  2:55                                                                                                         ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-06 13:18                                                                                                           ` David Masover
2005-06-30  3:04                                                                                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30  4:33                                                                                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-30  4:48                                                                                               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30  6:29                                                                                               ` David Weinehall
2005-06-30 15:57                                                                                                 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-30 15:57                                                                                                   ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-30 17:10                                                                                                   ` David Weinehall
2005-06-30 18:47                                                                                                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-30 20:08                                                                                                       ` Kevin Bowen
2005-07-01  3:28                                                                                                         ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-01  6:56                                                                                                           ` David Masover
2005-07-01 20:26                                                                                                             ` Kevin Bowen
2005-07-02  2:12                                                                                                               ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-04 19:05                                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-01  7:41                                                                                                           ` Chet Hosey
2005-07-05 20:55                                                                                                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-06  2:51                                                                                                               ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-06 13:26                                                                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-07-06 20:10                                                                                                                 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-30 20:37                                                                                                       ` Zan Lynx
2005-07-01  7:16                                                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-30 19:00                                                                                                     ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-01  7:47                                                                                                   ` David Masover
2005-07-05 15:46                                                                                             ` Martin Waitz
2005-07-05 22:32                                                                                               ` Jonathan Briggs
2005-07-06  7:20                                                                                                 ` Martin Waitz
2005-07-06  9:02                                                                                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-06 17:30                                                                                                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-07-07  6:41                                                                                                       ` Hans Reiser
2005-07-01  9:08                                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-07-01 18:55                                                                                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2005-07-02 12:28                                                                                       ` Pierre Etchemaïté
2005-07-02 23:09                                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-28 20:07                                                                       ` David Masover
2005-06-28 20:22                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-29  1:51                                                                       ` Hubert Chan
2005-07-01  9:00                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-28  2:34                                                                   ` Lee Revell
2005-06-27  5:38                                                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-27  6:18                                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-27  4:23                                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  5:31                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27  5:41                                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  5:57                                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-27  6:12                                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  6:27                                                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-27  6:43                                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  7:00                                                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-27  7:00                                                                       ` David Masover
2005-06-27 13:47                                                                       ` David Weinehall
2005-06-27 15:08                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27 16:40                                                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27 16:40                                                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27 18:25                                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27 18:25                                                                           ` David Masover
2005-06-28  6:47                                                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-28  6:47                                                                             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  4:27                                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  4:51                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27  5:09                                                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27  6:02                                                           ` David Masover
2005-06-27  2:49                                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-27  3:10                                                     ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-27  4:59                                                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  5:54                                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-27  6:24                                                           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  7:07                                                             ` David Masover
2005-06-27 16:53                                                               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-27  7:24                                                             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-27 14:58                                                         ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26 22:54                                                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27  0:59                                                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2005-06-29 19:32                                           ` Thomas Rösner
2005-06-26  5:18                                     ` David Masover
2005-06-26  7:09                                       ` Lincoln Dale
2005-06-26  8:00                                         ` David Masover
2005-06-26  0:24                                 ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-26  2:46                                   ` David Masover
2005-06-26  3:14                                 ` David Masover
2005-06-26  4:32                                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26  4:01                           ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-26  4:53                             ` David Masover
2005-06-26  5:45                             ` Hubert Chan
2005-06-28 13:54                     ` cryptocompress [was Re: reiser4 plugins] Pavel Machek
2005-06-23 21:41                 ` reiser4 plugins Alan Cox
2005-06-24  1:23                   ` reiser4 plugins (back to flames, oh well) Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  3:26                     ` reiser4/VFS plugins David Masover
2005-06-22  5:36             ` reiser4 plugins Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-22  7:46               ` David Masover
2005-06-26 16:52                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-26 17:21                   ` David Masover
2005-06-26 17:28                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-26 17:51                       ` David Masover
2005-06-22  9:56             ` Stefan Smietanowski
2005-06-22 14:00             ` Rik Van Riel
2005-06-22 14:24           ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-06-22 14:29             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-23  3:39               ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-26 16:46                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-26 17:07                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-26 17:25                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-26 18:14                   ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-26 23:42                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27  8:57                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-23 13:17               ` reiser4 plugins (the technical email in this flame fest) Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 17:31               ` reiser4 plugins Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-06-22  1:18         ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22 14:56           ` Christophe Saout
2005-06-22 15:10             ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-22 15:55               ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-22 15:55                 ` mjt
2005-06-22 16:20                 ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-22 16:20                   ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-22 16:46                   ` M.
2005-06-22 16:54                     ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-22 16:54                       ` mjt
2005-06-22 17:33                   ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-22 17:33                     ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-22 21:51                     ` David Masover
2005-06-22 22:23                       ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-23 14:25                         ` David Masover
2005-06-23 15:12                           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-23 22:31                           ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-24  6:37                             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-24  7:21                               ` David Masover
2005-06-24 11:13                                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2005-06-24 10:31                               ` Nikita Danilov [this message]
2005-06-24 10:31                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2005-06-22 22:27                       ` Roland Dreier
2005-06-23  7:44                     ` Artem B. Bityuckiy
2005-06-23  8:08                     ` Markus   Törnqvist
2005-06-23  8:08                       ` mjt
2005-06-23 19:00             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-25 18:55           ` Alexander Zarochentsev
2005-06-22  5:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-23  5:14           ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-21 20:22   ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:56     ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:04       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:23         ` Gerrit Huizenga
2005-06-21 21:38         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-06-22  6:33         ` Martin J. Bligh
2005-06-23  0:58         ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (kexec/kdump) Vara Prasad
2005-06-23  1:08           ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 21:28     ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 23:32       ` Chris Wright
2005-06-23 13:04         ` Carsten Otte
2005-06-22 16:53     ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-22 20:52       ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-23  2:14         ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-06-24  4:06     ` Paul Jackson
2005-06-24  4:54       ` randy_dunlap
2005-06-21 15:50 ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:56   ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-22 18:00     ` Nish Aravamudan
2005-06-21 20:32   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-21 20:37     ` Lee Revell
2005-06-21 16:26 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (HZ -> 250?) Lee Revell
2005-06-21 18:09   ` Alan Cox
2005-06-21 17:20 ` xtensa architecture (-mm -> 2.6.13 merge status) Chris Zankel
2005-06-22  3:35 ` OCFS (was Re: -mm " Rik Van Riel
2005-06-22  5:23   ` Wim Coekaerts
2005-06-22  4:08 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status (configfs) David Teigland
2005-06-22  4:19   ` Andrew Morton
2005-06-22  5:51 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27  9:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 14:25   ` Vladimir Saveliev
2005-06-27 19:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:44       ` Joel Becker
2005-06-27 20:26         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 22:06           ` generic_drop_inode Mark Fasheh
2005-06-28 14:54             ` generic_drop_inode Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 19:30 ` -mm -> 2.6.13 merge status Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-27 20:37   ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-30 18:30     ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-27 20:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-13 18:23   ` (v9fs) " Eric Van Hensbergen
2005-07-14 20:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-07-14 22:12       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2005-07-14 22:15         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
     [not found] <200507062150.j66Lo7UW012493@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl>
2005-07-08 16:53 ` reiser4 plugins Hubert Chan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-07-06 22:54 Doug Wicks
2005-07-06 22:54 ` Doug Wicks
2005-07-07  2:52 ` Jim Crilly
2005-07-07  6:21 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2005-07-06 22:52 Doug Wicks
2005-07-04 19:30 Martin Fouts
2005-07-01 13:01 M.
2005-07-01 16:38 ` Luigi Genoni
     [not found] <200506300141.j5U1f5Hm004913@laptop11.inf.utfsm.cl>
2005-07-01  3:44 ` Chet Hosey
     [not found] <fa.d8odcmh.1u56sbb@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.cg8nk4u.jj8tqg@ifi.uio.no>
2005-06-26  6:51   ` Reuben Farrelly
2005-06-26 19:05     ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-27 21:08       ` Vitaly Fertman
2005-06-24 23:43 Daniel Arnold
2005-06-25  0:40 ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-26 11:45   ` Christer Weinigel
2005-06-26 14:49   ` Daniel Arnold
2005-06-26 20:15     ` Horst von Brand
2005-06-26 22:41       ` Daniel Arnold
     [not found] <20050620235458.5b437274.akpm@osdl.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <42B831B4.9020603@pobox.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <42B87318.80607@namesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <20050621202448.GB30182@infradead.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <42B8B9EE.7020002@namesys.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <42B8BB5E.8090008@pobox.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2005-06-22  1:26           ` Andi Kleen
2005-06-22  2:47             ` Hans Reiser
2005-06-22  3:16               ` Kyle Moffett
2005-06-22 15:29               ` Nikita Danilov
2005-01-12  1:38 Gagan Rajpal
2005-01-12  1:38 ` Gagan Rajpal
2005-01-12  3:38   ` David Masover
2004-08-25 22:28 silent semantic changes with reiser4 Andrew Morton
2004-08-26  8:31 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-26  8:45   ` Andrew Morton
2004-08-26 12:18     ` Christophe Saout
2004-08-26 12:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-26 13:00         ` Christophe Saout
2004-08-26 13:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-26 13:17             ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Christophe Saout
2004-08-26 13:24               ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-26 13:35                 ` Christophe Saout
2004-08-26 13:40                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-26 13:58                     ` Christophe Saout
2004-08-26 23:55                       ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2004-08-26 23:55                         ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-27 12:04                         ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-27 18:15                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-27 18:15                             ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-27 18:55                             ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-28  9:53                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28  9:53                                 ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 13:47                                 ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-28 14:10                                   ` Konstantin Besch
2004-08-28 22:09                                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 23:45                                   ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-29  9:35                                     ` Nikita Danilov
2004-08-29 11:17                               ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-27 22:29                             ` Steve Bergman
2004-08-27 22:29                               ` Steve Bergman
2004-08-28  6:54                               ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 10:09                                 ` Steve Bergman
2004-08-29 11:52                                   ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-29 11:55                                   ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-29 11:42                               ` Alex Zarochentsev
2004-08-28  9:41                           ` Redeeman
2004-08-26 23:54                     ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-26 23:54                       ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 10:59                 ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Alexander Lyamin
2004-08-28 11:12                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-28 12:05                     ` Alexander Lyamin
2004-08-28 13:56                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-28 19:23                         ` Alexander Lyamin
2004-08-28 22:36                           ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 22:36                             ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 17:18                   ` reiser4 plugins (was: silent semantic changes with reiser4) Linus Torvalds
2004-08-28 19:03                     ` Alexander Lyamin
2004-08-28 19:09                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-08-28 21:41                         ` reiser4 plugins Hans Reiser
2004-08-28 21:41                           ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-30 16:02                           ` Herbert Poetzl
2004-08-30 18:55                             ` Hans Reiser
2004-08-30 18:55                               ` Hans Reiser

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