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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Future direction of DAX
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:00:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49wpduzseu.fsf@dhcp-25-115.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170114082621.GC10498@birch.djwong.org> (Darrick J. Wong's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:26:21 -0800")

"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> writes:

>> - Whenever you mount a filesystem with DAX, it spits out a message that says
>>   "DAX enabled. Warning: EXPERIMENTAL, use at your own risk".  What criteria
>>   needs to be met for DAX to no longer be considered experimental?
>
> For XFS I'd like to get reflink working with it, for starters.

What do you mean by this, exactly?  When Dave outlined the requirements
for PMEM_IMMUTABLE, it was very clear that metadata updates would not be
possible.  And would you really cosider this a barrier to marking dax
fully supported?  I wouldn't.

> We probably need a bunch more verification work to show that file IO
> doesn't adopt any bad quirks having turned on the per-inode DAX flag.

Can you be more specific?  We have ltp and xfstests.  If you have some
mkfs/mount options that you think should be tested, speak up.  Beyond
that, if it passes ./check -g auto and ltp, are we good?

-Jeff

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From: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Future direction of DAX
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 15:00:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <x49wpduzseu.fsf@dhcp-25-115.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170114082621.GC10498@birch.djwong.org> (Darrick J. Wong's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:26:21 -0800")

"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com> writes:

>> - Whenever you mount a filesystem with DAX, it spits out a message that says
>>   "DAX enabled. Warning: EXPERIMENTAL, use at your own risk".  What criteria
>>   needs to be met for DAX to no longer be considered experimental?
>
> For XFS I'd like to get reflink working with it, for starters.

What do you mean by this, exactly?  When Dave outlined the requirements
for PMEM_IMMUTABLE, it was very clear that metadata updates would not be
possible.  And would you really cosider this a barrier to marking dax
fully supported?  I wouldn't.

> We probably need a bunch more verification work to show that file IO
> doesn't adopt any bad quirks having turned on the per-inode DAX flag.

Can you be more specific?  We have ltp and xfstests.  If you have some
mkfs/mount options that you think should be tested, speak up.  Beyond
that, if it passes ./check -g auto and ltp, are we good?

-Jeff

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-16 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-14  0:20 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Future direction of DAX Ross Zwisler
2017-01-14  0:20 ` Ross Zwisler
2017-01-14  0:20 ` Ross Zwisler
     [not found] ` <20170114002008.GA25379-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-14  8:26   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-14  8:26     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-14  8:26     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-16  0:19     ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2017-01-16  0:19       ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2017-01-16  0:19       ` Viacheslav Dubeyko
2017-01-16 20:00     ` Jeff Moyer [this message]
2017-01-16 20:00       ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17  1:50       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-17  1:50         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-01-17  2:42         ` Dan Williams
2017-01-17  2:42           ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <20170117015033.GD10498-PTl6brltDGh4DFYR7WNSRA@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-17  7:57           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17  7:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17  7:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 14:54             ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17 14:54               ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]               ` <x49mvep4tzw.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-17 15:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 15:06                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-17 15:06                   ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]                   ` <20170117150638.GA3747-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-01-17 16:07                     ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17 16:07                       ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17 16:07                       ` Jeff Moyer
2017-01-17 15:59 ` [Lsf-pc] " Jan Kara
2017-01-17 15:59   ` Jan Kara
2017-01-17 15:59   ` Jan Kara
2017-01-17 16:56   ` Dan Williams
2017-01-17 16:56     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-17 16:56     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  0:03   ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-18  0:03     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-18  0:03     ` Kani, Toshimitsu
2017-01-18  5:25 ` willy
2017-01-18  5:25   ` willy
2017-01-18  5:25   ` willy
2017-01-18  6:01   ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  6:01     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  6:01     ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  6:07     ` willy
2017-01-18  6:07       ` willy
2017-01-18  6:07       ` willy
2017-01-18  6:25       ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  6:25         ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18  6:25         ` Dan Williams
2017-01-18 17:22   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-01-18 17:22     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-01-18 17:22     ` Ross Zwisler

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