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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Pull network and Patch Acceptance Consistency
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2019 23:03:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1v9x8rhqk.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190613140911.7a338651@coco.lan> (Mauro Carvalho Chehab's message of "Thu, 13 Jun 2019 14:09:11 -0300")


Mauro,

> Using astyle:
>
> 	$ astyle --indent=force-tab=8 --convert-tabs --style=linux
> --lineend=linux --pad-oper --pad-comma --pad-header
> --align-pointer=name --align-reference=name --break-one-line-headers
> drivers/scsi/gdth_proc.c
>
> A visual inspection on it looked pretty decent to my eyes. The
> automatic tool also reported a lot less issues:

Not questioning that things could be cleaned up and that tools can
help. However, many of these drivers will be removed when we get the
chance so it doesn't seem worthwhile to invest in reformatting and
updating them. Especially if cleaning things up will facilitate *more*
drive-by patches. I'd much rather let stale be stale to make it clear
that a given driver will be dropped from the tree unless somebody shows
a real interest.

While this may come across as a desire to discourage patches completely,
that's not actually the case. But I want patches from somebody who takes
ownership and who is willing to validate things. Using real hardware,
QEMU, output comparison, or interpretive dancing. Doesn't matter.

I am a bit concerned that our emphasis on teaching process to attract
new talent has encouraged a culture of non-committal drive-by cleanups.
Whereas I think there is much to be learned from the process of buying
an obsolete SCSI controller on eBay, beating a driver into shape,
getting the changes merged, and committing to maintaining things going
forward.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-14  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-06 15:48 [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Pull network and Patch Acceptance Consistency James Bottomley
2019-06-06 15:58 ` Greg KH
2019-06-06 16:24   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 13:59     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 10:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 13:24         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 13:31           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 13:54             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 14:08               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-14 14:56             ` Mark Brown
2019-06-14 13:58           ` Greg KH
2019-06-14 15:11             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 15:23               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 15:43                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 15:49                   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 16:04                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14 16:16                       ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14 17:48                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17  7:01                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-17 13:31                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 14:26                               ` Takashi Iwai
2019-06-19  7:53                               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-19  8:13                                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] [kbuild] " Philip Li
2019-06-19  8:33                                 ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-19 14:39                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-19 14:48                                     ` [Ksummit-discuss] [media-submaintainers] " Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-19 15:19                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-19 15:46                                       ` James Bottomley
2019-06-19 16:23                                         ` Mark Brown
2019-06-20 12:24                                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-20 10:36                                         ` Jani Nikula
2019-06-19 15:56                                       ` Mark Brown
2019-06-19 16:09                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-15 10:55                         ` [Ksummit-discuss] " Daniel Vetter
2019-06-14 20:52               ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-06-15 11:01               ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-17 11:03                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 12:28                   ` Mark Brown
2019-06-17 16:48                     ` Tim.Bird
2019-06-17 17:23                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-17 23:13                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-17 14:18                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-06-06 16:29   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-06 18:26     ` Dan Williams
2019-06-07 20:14       ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 13:49         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 14:35           ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:03             ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 15:21               ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-13 15:27                 ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:35                 ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-13 15:39                   ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-14 11:53                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-06-14 17:06                       ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-15  7:20                         ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-06-13 15:39                   ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 15:42                   ` Takashi Iwai
2019-06-13 19:28               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-14  9:08               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-14  9:43               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-14 13:27               ` Dan Carpenter
2019-06-13 17:27             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 18:41               ` James Bottomley
2019-06-13 19:11                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 19:20                   ` Joe Perches
2019-06-14  2:21                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-13 19:57                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 14:53           ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-06-13 17:09             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14  3:03               ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2019-06-14  3:35                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-14  7:31                 ` Joe Perches
2019-06-13 13:28       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-06-06 16:18 ` Bart Van Assche
2019-06-14 19:53 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-06-14 23:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-06-17 10:35     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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