* Re [1]: @ 2004-09-30 17:08 Wendell Jack 2004-09-30 17:43 ` Spam on Alsa-devel Carsten Koch 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Wendell Jack @ 2004-09-30 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/html, Size: 6466 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-09-30 17:08 Re [1]: Wendell Jack @ 2004-09-30 17:43 ` Carsten Koch 2004-09-30 18:25 ` Lee Revell 2004-10-01 6:01 ` Jaroslav Kysela 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Carsten Koch @ 2004-09-30 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: alsa-devel It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a list I am subscribed to). I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. I will unsubscribe now. Could any kind soul please inform me when the issue is resolved? I will re-subscribe then. Thanks and cheers, Carsten. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-09-30 17:43 ` Spam on Alsa-devel Carsten Koch @ 2004-09-30 18:25 ` Lee Revell 2004-09-30 21:11 ` Lee Revell 2004-10-01 6:01 ` Jaroslav Kysela 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lee Revell @ 2004-09-30 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Koch; +Cc: alsa-devel On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:43, Carsten Koch wrote: > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > list I am subscribed to). > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > We have to allow nonsubscribers to post because the kernel developers need to be able to cc: alsa-devel. The problem is inadequate spam filtering on the server. I would imagine Jaroslav has notified SourceForge of the problem. In the meantime, just filter the messages on spam score. SF's mail servers do assign a spam score, but the cutoff threshold is too low. > I will unsubscribe now. > Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-09-30 18:25 ` Lee Revell @ 2004-09-30 21:11 ` Lee Revell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lee Revell @ 2004-09-30 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Koch; +Cc: alsa-devel On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 14:25, Lee Revell wrote: > On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 13:43, Carsten Koch wrote: > > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > > list I am subscribed to). > > > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > > > > We have to allow nonsubscribers to post because the kernel developers > need to be able to cc: alsa-devel. The problem is inadequate spam > filtering on the server. I would imagine Jaroslav has notified > SourceForge of the problem. > > In the meantime, just filter the messages on spam score. SF's mail > servers do assign a spam score, but the cutoff threshold is too low. Actually if you look at the headers of the spam, there's an X-Spam-Report header that gives you a URL to report problems with the spamassassin filtering. The last spam I got has a spam score of only 2.1, so the system definitely is not perfect. Just report the problem using the URL in the X-Spam-Report header. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-09-30 17:43 ` Spam on Alsa-devel Carsten Koch 2004-09-30 18:25 ` Lee Revell @ 2004-10-01 6:01 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2004-10-01 8:32 ` James Courtier-Dutton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jaroslav Kysela @ 2004-10-01 6:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Koch; +Cc: alsa-devel On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Carsten Koch wrote: > It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days > than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this > http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very > effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a > list I am subscribed to). > > I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. Because of kernel folks. > I will unsubscribe now. http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=6695&group_id=1#spam_virus Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-10-01 6:01 ` Jaroslav Kysela @ 2004-10-01 8:32 ` James Courtier-Dutton 2004-10-01 8:37 ` Jaroslav Kysela 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: James Courtier-Dutton @ 2004-10-01 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela; +Cc: Carsten Koch, alsa-devel Jaroslav Kysela wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004, Carsten Koch wrote: > > >>It appears I am receiving more spam via Alsa-devel these days >>than via the rest of my mail together (I am using this >>http://angel.net/~nic/spam-x.html against spam, which is very >>effective, but totally helpless against spam posted to a >>list I am subscribed to). >> >>I wonder why the list accepts postings from non-subscribers. > > > Because of kernel folks. > Jaroslav, We can still keep this email list private. All you have to do is select: "Send mail to poster when their posting is held for approval? NO" So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the authorisation will be quiet. In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does not get posted to the list. If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit messages. I think that would be acceptable to everyone. I do this for my mailing lists. James ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-10-01 8:32 ` James Courtier-Dutton @ 2004-10-01 8:37 ` Jaroslav Kysela 2004-10-01 16:12 ` Florian Schmidt 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Jaroslav Kysela @ 2004-10-01 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: James Courtier-Dutton; +Cc: Carsten Koch, alsa-devel On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > authorisation will be quiet. > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does not > get posted to the list. > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit messages. I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? Jaroslav ----- Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer ALSA Project, SUSE Labs ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-10-01 8:37 ` Jaroslav Kysela @ 2004-10-01 16:12 ` Florian Schmidt 2004-10-01 17:19 ` Lee Revell 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Florian Schmidt @ 2004-10-01 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jaroslav Kysela; +Cc: James Courtier-Dutton, Carsten Koch, alsa-devel On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > > authorisation will be quiet. > > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does > > not get posted to the list. > > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit > > messages. > > I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? couldn't this be automated? every message having lkml somewhere in its headers comes through? everything else from non members not. flo ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Spam on Alsa-devel. 2004-10-01 16:12 ` Florian Schmidt @ 2004-10-01 17:19 ` Lee Revell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Lee Revell @ 2004-10-01 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Florian Schmidt Cc: Jaroslav Kysela, James Courtier-Dutton, Carsten Koch, alsa-devel On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 12:12, Florian Schmidt wrote: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:37:04 +0200 (CEST) > Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz> wrote: > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > > > So, any post by a non-member will have to be authorised, the the > > > authorisation will be quiet. > > > In this way, you can filter out all SPAM manually, so that it does > > > not get posted to the list. > > > If mail is from the kernel mailing list, accept it, if it is from a > > > non-member, manually reject it, saying only members can submit > > > messages. > > > > I don't have a power to filter messages every day.. Any volunteer? > > couldn't this be automated? every message having lkml somewhere in its > headers comes through? everything else from non members not. > No, because the message could have come from any of the kernel developers. All this would do is allow any spam to the list to go through as long as LKML was cc:ed. In theory this has a HUGE hole, in practice, maybe it could work well. I still think it's worth a spam here and there to not have to subscribe to a list to post to it. It works for LKML, they do get spammed but only one or two a day. If the one or two spams a day are REALLY intolerable then we should report the problem to sourceforge. Lee ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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