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From: Sven Eckelmann <sven@narfation.org>
To: b.a.t.m.a.n@lists.open-mesh.org
Cc: "Leonardo Mörlein" <me@irrelefant.net>,
	"Antonio Quartulli" <a@unstable.cc>
Subject: Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC PATCH] batman-adv: mitigate issue when empty vlan is received
Date: Tue, 08 May 2018 10:45:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2006071.d5ofkIttSZ@bentobox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7337501.sxbCbvYRv0@bentobox>

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n Montag, 7. Mai 2018 12:23:57 CEST Sven Eckelmann wrote:
> This would sound to me like the vlan should just be 
> created instead of adding this workaround. But maybe you should discuss the 
> details here with Antonio because at the end it is just about the different 
> ways of handling "!vlan" case from your patch.

Just had a look at the cleanup code for vlans and it seems like each vlan
in vlan_list must contain at least one entry (according to
vlan->tt.num_entries) and otherwise batadv_tt_global_size_mod will drop it.
So it isn't as easy as just adding a simple vlan for each received vlan
entry via TT response.

So your patch (or a variant of it) will most likely be the way to go for
receivers.


Now to your commit message:

On Sonntag, 6. Mai 2018 21:55:59 CEST Leonardo Mörlein wrote:

> batman-adv: mitigate issue when empty vlan is received

Something more specific would be nice. Maybe somebody else has a better
idea but what about:

batman-adv: Mitigate TT loop when receiving empty VLAN


> This patch is not a fix for the issue itself, but a fix for the
> other nodes, which are also influenced by the issue.

I personally don't like to read "this patch" in commit messages. This part
should maybe be reformulated and put at the end (before the Fixes line).
Something like:

While the problem is caused by the sender, the receiver can mitigate the
problem by ignoring (potentially) empty VLANs during the CRC check.

[...]
> - This behaviour is a bug! Batman-adv nodes must not send TT
>   announcements for empty vlans.

Where is this defined as incorrect message? But yes, the current
implementation cannot handle it.

> - The receiving batman-adv can not handle incoming TT announcements
>   with empty vlans. (The crc check routine batadv_tt_global_check_crc()
>   fails.)

This is to vague as discussed earlier. Maybe something more like:

- The receiving batman-adv can not handle incoming TT announcements with
  empty vlans. No new struct batadv_orig_node_vlan entry will be added
  to batadv_orig_node->vlan_list. This will cause the crc check routine
  batadv_tt_global_check_crc() to fail because it cannot find the local
  representation of this empty vlan.

[...]
> - This causes a lot of unneeded TT traffic. In Freifunk Hannover we
>   decreased the amount of from ~20kpp/s to ~4kpp/s on our supernodes.
>   We have ~800 nodes, which are connected via vpn to one of six
>   supernodes. Those supernodes are connected with each other in a fully
>   connected mesh.

This part doesn't seem to fit in the list and might just be a new paragraph
at the end to summarize the impact of the problem.


A "Fixes: " line is missing here. Please check whether this sounds about
right:

Fixes: 7ea7b4a14275 ("batman-adv: make the TT CRC logic VLAN specific")


Kind regards,
	Sven


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08  8:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-06 19:55 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC PATCH] batman-adv: mitigate issue when empty vlan is received Leonardo Mörlein
2018-05-07  6:32 ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-07  8:06   ` me
2018-05-07 10:23     ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-08  8:45       ` Sven Eckelmann [this message]
2018-05-09 14:08 ` Marek Lindner
2018-05-09 16:06 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC] batman-adv: prevent TT request storms by not sending inconsistent TT TLVLs Marek Lindner
2018-05-09 17:21   ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-09 18:20     ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-09 20:38       ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-09 21:34         ` lemoer
2018-05-10  9:12         ` Antonio Quartulli
2018-05-10 10:28       ` Marek Lindner
2018-05-10 14:41 ` [B.A.T.M.A.N.] [RFC v2] " Marek Lindner
2018-05-10 15:50   ` Sven Eckelmann
2018-05-11 15:58     ` Marek Lindner

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