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From: Roger Quadros <rogerq@kernel.org>
To: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Chen" <peter.chen@kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Laszczak" <pawell@cadence.com>,
	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
	"Vardhan, Vibhore" <vibhore@ti.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 23:44:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdea68ad-7523-4738-8fa1-b670d81a6b93@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CX0GOP07I40N.198G7LJ0HYDBG@tleb-bootlin-xps13-01>

+Vibhore,

On 16/11/2023 20:56, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> Hello Roger,
> 
> On Thu Nov 16, 2023 at 1:40 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
>> On 15/11/2023 17:02, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>>> On Wed Nov 15, 2023 at 12:37 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>> On 13/11/2023 16:26, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>>>>> Hardware initialisation is only done at probe. The J7200 USB controller
>>>>> is reset at resume because of power-domains toggling off & on. We
>>>>> therefore (1) toggle PM runtime at suspend/resume & (2) reconfigure the
>>>>> hardware at resume.
>>>>
>>>> at probe we are doing a pm_runtime_get() and never doing a put thus
>>>> preventing any runtime PM.
>>>
>>> Indeed. The get() from probe/resume are in symmetry with the put() from
>>> suspend. Is this wrong in some manner?
>>>
>>>>> index c331bcd2faeb..50b38c4b9c87 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
>>>>> @@ -197,6 +197,50 @@ static int cdns_ti_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>>>>  	return error;
>>>>>  }
>>>>>  
>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_PM
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static int cdns_ti_suspend(struct device *dev)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	struct cdns_ti *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	if (!of_device_is_compatible(dev_of_node(dev), "ti,j7200-usb"))
>>>>> +		return 0;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	pm_runtime_put_sync(data->dev);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	return 0;
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check suspend/resume ops in cdns3-plat and
>>>> do something similar here.
>>>
>>> I'm unsure what you are referring to specifically in cdns3-plat?
>>
>> What I meant is, calling pm_runtime_get/put() from system suspend/resume
>> hooks doesn't seem right.
>>
>> How about using something like pm_runtime_forbid(dev) on devices which
>> loose USB context on runtime suspend e.g. J7200.
>> So at probe we can get rid of the pm_runtime_get_sync() call.
> 
> What is the goal of enabling PM runtime to then block (ie forbid) it in
> its enabled state until system suspend?

If USB controller retains context on runtime_suspend on some platforms
then we don't want to forbid PM runtime.

> 
> Thinking some more about it and having read parts of the genpd source,
> it's unclear to me why there even is some PM runtime calls in this
> driver. No runtime_suspend/runtime_resume callbacks are registered.
> Also, power-domains work as expected without any PM runtime calls.

Probably it was required when the driver was introduced.

> 
> The power domain is turned on when attached to a device
> (see genpd_dev_pm_attach). It gets turned off automatically at
> suspend_noirq (taking into account the many things that make genpd
> complex: multiple devices per PD, subdomains, flags to customise the
> behavior, etc.). Removing calls to PM runtime at probe keeps the driver
> working.
> 
> So my new proposal would be: remove all all PM runtime calls from this
> driver. Anything wrong with this approach?

Nothing wrong if we don't expect runtime_pm to work with this driver.

> 
> Only possible reason I see for having PM runtime in this wrapper driver
> would be cut the full power-domain when USB isn't used, with some PM
> runtime interaction with the children node. But that cannot work
> currently as we don't register a runtime_resume to init the hardware,
> so this cannot be the current expected behavior.
> 
>> e.g.
>>
>>         pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
>>         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>>         if (cnds_ti->can_loose_context)
>>                 pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
>>
>>         pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(dev, CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);	/* could be 20ms? */
> 
> Why mention autosuspend in this driver? This will turn the device off in
> CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY then nothing enables it back using
> pm_runtime_get. We have nothing to reconfigure the device, ie no
> runtime_resume, so we must not go into runtime suspend.

It would be enabled/disabled based on when the child "cdns3,usb"
does runtime_resume/suspend.

> 
>>         pm_runtime_mark_last_busy(dev);
>>         pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(dev);
>>
>> You will need to modify the suspend/resume handlers accordingly.
>> https://docs.kernel.org/power/runtime_pm.html#runtime-pm-and-system-sleep
>>
>> What I'm not sure of is if there are any TI platforms that retain USB context
>> on power domain off. Let me get back on this. Till then we can assume that
>> all platforms loose USB context on power domain off.
> 
> Good question indeed! Thanks for looking into it. From what I see all 5
> DT nodes which use this driver in upstream devicetrees have a
> power-domain configured. So if the behavior is the same on all three TI
> platforms (which would be the logical thing to assume) it would make
> sense that all controllers lose power at suspend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com

-- 
cheers,
-roger

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Roger Quadros <rogerq@kernel.org>
To: "Théo Lebrun" <theo.lebrun@bootlin.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Chen" <peter.chen@kernel.org>,
	"Pawel Laszczak" <pawell@cadence.com>,
	"Nishanth Menon" <nm@ti.com>,
	"Vignesh Raghavendra" <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	"Tero Kristo" <kristo@kernel.org>,
	"Vardhan, Vibhore" <vibhore@ti.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Grégory Clement" <gregory.clement@bootlin.com>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2023 23:44:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bdea68ad-7523-4738-8fa1-b670d81a6b93@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CX0GOP07I40N.198G7LJ0HYDBG@tleb-bootlin-xps13-01>

+Vibhore,

On 16/11/2023 20:56, Théo Lebrun wrote:
> Hello Roger,
> 
> On Thu Nov 16, 2023 at 1:40 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
>> On 15/11/2023 17:02, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>>> On Wed Nov 15, 2023 at 12:37 PM CET, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>> On 13/11/2023 16:26, Théo Lebrun wrote:
>>>>> Hardware initialisation is only done at probe. The J7200 USB controller
>>>>> is reset at resume because of power-domains toggling off & on. We
>>>>> therefore (1) toggle PM runtime at suspend/resume & (2) reconfigure the
>>>>> hardware at resume.
>>>>
>>>> at probe we are doing a pm_runtime_get() and never doing a put thus
>>>> preventing any runtime PM.
>>>
>>> Indeed. The get() from probe/resume are in symmetry with the put() from
>>> suspend. Is this wrong in some manner?
>>>
>>>>> index c331bcd2faeb..50b38c4b9c87 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/usb/cdns3/cdns3-ti.c
>>>>> @@ -197,6 +197,50 @@ static int cdns_ti_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>>>>>  	return error;
>>>>>  }
>>>>>  
>>>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_PM
>>>>> +
>>>>> +static int cdns_ti_suspend(struct device *dev)
>>>>> +{
>>>>> +	struct cdns_ti *data = dev_get_drvdata(dev);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	if (!of_device_is_compatible(dev_of_node(dev), "ti,j7200-usb"))
>>>>> +		return 0;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	pm_runtime_put_sync(data->dev);
>>>>> +
>>>>> +	return 0;
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check suspend/resume ops in cdns3-plat and
>>>> do something similar here.
>>>
>>> I'm unsure what you are referring to specifically in cdns3-plat?
>>
>> What I meant is, calling pm_runtime_get/put() from system suspend/resume
>> hooks doesn't seem right.
>>
>> How about using something like pm_runtime_forbid(dev) on devices which
>> loose USB context on runtime suspend e.g. J7200.
>> So at probe we can get rid of the pm_runtime_get_sync() call.
> 
> What is the goal of enabling PM runtime to then block (ie forbid) it in
> its enabled state until system suspend?

If USB controller retains context on runtime_suspend on some platforms
then we don't want to forbid PM runtime.

> 
> Thinking some more about it and having read parts of the genpd source,
> it's unclear to me why there even is some PM runtime calls in this
> driver. No runtime_suspend/runtime_resume callbacks are registered.
> Also, power-domains work as expected without any PM runtime calls.

Probably it was required when the driver was introduced.

> 
> The power domain is turned on when attached to a device
> (see genpd_dev_pm_attach). It gets turned off automatically at
> suspend_noirq (taking into account the many things that make genpd
> complex: multiple devices per PD, subdomains, flags to customise the
> behavior, etc.). Removing calls to PM runtime at probe keeps the driver
> working.
> 
> So my new proposal would be: remove all all PM runtime calls from this
> driver. Anything wrong with this approach?

Nothing wrong if we don't expect runtime_pm to work with this driver.

> 
> Only possible reason I see for having PM runtime in this wrapper driver
> would be cut the full power-domain when USB isn't used, with some PM
> runtime interaction with the children node. But that cannot work
> currently as we don't register a runtime_resume to init the hardware,
> so this cannot be the current expected behavior.
> 
>> e.g.
>>
>>         pm_runtime_set_active(dev);
>>         pm_runtime_enable(dev);
>>         if (cnds_ti->can_loose_context)
>>                 pm_runtime_forbid(dev);
>>
>>         pm_runtime_set_autosuspend_delay(dev, CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY);	/* could be 20ms? */
> 
> Why mention autosuspend in this driver? This will turn the device off in
> CNDS_TI_AUTOSUSPEND_DELAY then nothing enables it back using
> pm_runtime_get. We have nothing to reconfigure the device, ie no
> runtime_resume, so we must not go into runtime suspend.

It would be enabled/disabled based on when the child "cdns3,usb"
does runtime_resume/suspend.

> 
>>         pm_runtime_mark_last_busy(dev);
>>         pm_runtime_use_autosuspend(dev);
>>
>> You will need to modify the suspend/resume handlers accordingly.
>> https://docs.kernel.org/power/runtime_pm.html#runtime-pm-and-system-sleep
>>
>> What I'm not sure of is if there are any TI platforms that retain USB context
>> on power domain off. Let me get back on this. Till then we can assume that
>> all platforms loose USB context on power domain off.
> 
> Good question indeed! Thanks for looking into it. From what I see all 5
> DT nodes which use this driver in upstream devicetrees have a
> power-domain configured. So if the behavior is the same on all three TI
> platforms (which would be the logical thing to assume) it would make
> sense that all controllers lose power at suspend.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Théo Lebrun, Bootlin
> Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
> https://bootlin.com

-- 
cheers,
-roger

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-16 21:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-13 14:26 [PATCH 0/6] usb: cdns: fix suspend on J7200 by assuming reset on resume Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: usb: ti,j721e-usb: add ti,j7200-usb compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 19:58   ` Conor Dooley
2023-11-13 19:58     ` Conor Dooley
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 2/6] usb: cdns3-ti: move reg writes from probe into an init_hw helper Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 11:33   ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 11:33     ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 14:23     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 14:23       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 12:00       ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-16 12:00         ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 3/6] usb: cdns3-ti: add suspend/resume procedures for J7200 Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 15:39   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-13 15:39     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-14 11:13     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 11:13       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 11:37   ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 11:37     ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-15 15:02     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-15 15:02       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 12:40       ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-16 12:40         ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-16 18:56         ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 18:56           ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-16 21:44           ` Roger Quadros [this message]
2023-11-16 21:44             ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-17 10:17             ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17 10:17               ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17 11:51               ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-17 11:51                 ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-17 14:20                 ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17 14:20                   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-18 10:41                   ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-18 10:41                     ` Roger Quadros
2023-11-22 22:23                   ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-22 22:23                     ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-23  9:51                     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-23  9:51                       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-26 22:36                       ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-26 22:36                         ` Kevin Hilman
2023-11-27 13:25                         ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-27 13:25                           ` Théo Lebrun
2023-12-12 18:26                           ` Kevin Hilman
2023-12-12 18:26                             ` Kevin Hilman
2023-12-12 19:31                             ` Alan Stern
2023-12-12 19:31                               ` Alan Stern
2023-11-13 14:26 ` [PATCH 4/6] usb: cdns3: support power-off of controller when in host role Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:26   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14  8:38   ` Peter Chen
2023-11-14  8:38     ` Peter Chen
2023-11-14 11:10     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 11:10       ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17  3:38       ` Peter Chen
2023-11-17  3:38         ` Peter Chen
2023-11-17  9:58         ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-17  9:58           ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-20  5:44           ` Peter Chen
2023-11-20  5:44             ` Peter Chen
2023-11-13 14:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] usb: cdns3-ti: notify cdns core that hardware resets across suspend on J7200 Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:27   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: dts: ti: k3-j7200: use J7200-specific USB compatible Théo Lebrun
2023-11-13 14:27   ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 10:01   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-14 10:01     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2023-11-14 11:14     ` Théo Lebrun
2023-11-14 11:14       ` Théo Lebrun

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