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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [J-core] [PATCH v5 00/22] sh: LANDISK and R2Dplus convert to device tree
Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 20:01:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d102251b-334e-0e61-9ecd-1f5c4651e987@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180507155543.GJ1392@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On 05/07/2018 10:55 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:28:37AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/07/2018 09:45 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
>> (You can usually configure/build uboot in a couple different ways, with a
>> brain-dead built in shell or with busybox hush glued into it. Depends on how big
>> you want the image to be. Not sure how much of that is upstream and how much is
>> vendor forks I've used, though. Been a while.)
> 
> This sounds like a pain,

Well yeah. It's u-boot.

> but none of it seems relevant to the setup
> we're using. This U-Boot variant does not install on flash or use

That's the full dance for getting it installed on a board it's not already
running on. Usually somebody else sets it up and you inherit one with a "tftp
download" script and another "boot from persistent storage" script and you
mostly just the command line to swap the autoboot variable to point to the right
one of the two.

> flash; it runs from disk in place of LILO or another MBR-based
> bootloader. I'm just trying to understand where/how the binary blobs
> are installed on the disk so I can reproduce that when making new disk
> images with my kernel and filesystem.

The point of the tftp boot is quick reboot cycles during development, not having
to install the kernel you're booting on target each time. But as long as you're
not replacing u-boot and have a u-boot console you can fall back on an alternate
kernel from disk. (It's not really designed to give you a menu though, it gives
you a command line. You can have the kernel name to load in its own variable and
"set kernelname 'walrus.img'; run hdboot" though.)

There are probably more elegant ways to use this tool. I learned how to hammer
it in and get the lid off, and went on to other things...

> Rich

Rob

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [J-core] [PATCH v5 00/22] sh: LANDISK and R2Dplus convert to device tree
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 15:01:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d102251b-334e-0e61-9ecd-1f5c4651e987@landley.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180507155543.GJ1392@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On 05/07/2018 10:55 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:28:37AM -0500, Rob Landley wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/07/2018 09:45 AM, Rich Felker wrote:
>> (You can usually configure/build uboot in a couple different ways, with a
>> brain-dead built in shell or with busybox hush glued into it. Depends on how big
>> you want the image to be. Not sure how much of that is upstream and how much is
>> vendor forks I've used, though. Been a while.)
> 
> This sounds like a pain,

Well yeah. It's u-boot.

> but none of it seems relevant to the setup
> we're using. This U-Boot variant does not install on flash or use

That's the full dance for getting it installed on a board it's not already
running on. Usually somebody else sets it up and you inherit one with a "tftp
download" script and another "boot from persistent storage" script and you
mostly just the command line to swap the autoboot variable to point to the right
one of the two.

> flash; it runs from disk in place of LILO or another MBR-based
> bootloader. I'm just trying to understand where/how the binary blobs
> are installed on the disk so I can reproduce that when making new disk
> images with my kernel and filesystem.

The point of the tftp boot is quick reboot cycles during development, not having
to install the kernel you're booting on target each time. But as long as you're
not replacing u-boot and have a u-boot console you can fall back on an alternate
kernel from disk. (It's not really designed to give you a menu though, it gives
you a command line. You can have the kernel name to load in its own variable and
"set kernelname 'walrus.img'; run hdboot" though.)

There are probably more elegant ways to use this tool. I learned how to hammer
it in and get the lid off, and went on to other things...

> Rich

Rob

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-03 16:46 [PATCH v5 00/22] sh: LANDISK and R2Dplus convert to device tree Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] sh: Add sh-specific early_init_dt_reserve_memory_arch Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-04  2:03   ` Rich Felker
2016-07-04  2:03     ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 13:53     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 13:53       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 14:50       ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 14:50         ` Rich Felker
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] sh: More early unflatten device tree Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] sh: set preset_lpj Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] sh: Use P1SEGADDR Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-04  1:48   ` Rich Felker
2016-07-04  1:48     ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 14:11     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 14:11       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 14:53       ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 14:53         ` Rich Felker
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] sh: command line passing chosen/bootargs in devicetree Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] sh: FDT address save before bank change Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] sh: Passing FDT address on zImage Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] sh: Disable board specific code on device tree mode Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] sh: Use GENERIC_IOMAP " Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] sh: Add board specific initialize of of-generic Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-04  1:35   ` Rich Felker
2016-07-04  1:35     ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 14:27     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 14:27       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] sh: SH7750/51 CPG Driver Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
     [not found] ` <1467564402-2649-1-git-send-email-ysato-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uooqe+aC9MnS@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-03 16:46   ` [PATCH v6 12/22] sh: Add PCI host bridge driver for SH7751 Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-05 15:53     ` Rob Herring
2016-07-05 15:53       ` Rob Herring
2016-07-06 16:19       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 16:19         ` Yoshinori Sato
     [not found]     ` <1467564402-2649-13-git-send-email-ysato-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uooqe+aC9MnS@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-22 22:59       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-07-22 22:59         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-07-22 22:59         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-07-03 16:46   ` [PATCH v5 13/22] sh: irqchip: SH7751 IRQCHIP Driver Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] sh: SH7751 core dtsi Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] sh: Move common PCI stuff to arch/sh/kernel Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-04  1:55   ` Rich Felker
2016-07-04  1:55     ` Rich Felker
2016-07-06 16:17     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 16:17       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] pci: pci_config_window move to linux/pci.h Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] pci: PCI_HOST_GENERIC enable for SH Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] sh: Add separate DTB build rule Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] sh: IO-DATA HDL-U (a.k.a landisk) IRQCHIP driver Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-11 14:02   ` Rob Herring
2016-07-11 14:02     ` Rob Herring
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] sh: IO-DATA HDL-U (a.k.a landisk) DeviceTree Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 19:00   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-07-03 19:00     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-07-06 16:18     ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-06 16:18       ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] sh: Renesas RTS7751R2Dplus (a.k.a R2Dplus) IRQCHIP Driver Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] sh: Renesas RTS7751R2Dplus (a,k.a R2Dplus) DeviceTree Yoshinori Sato
2016-07-03 16:46   ` Yoshinori Sato
2017-11-17 10:37 ` [PATCH v5 00/22] sh: LANDISK and R2Dplus convert to device tree John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2017-11-17 10:37   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2017-11-17 17:39   ` [J-core] " Rob Landley
2017-11-17 17:39     ` Rob Landley
2017-11-17 17:49     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2017-11-17 17:49       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2017-11-17 19:17       ` Rich Felker
2017-11-17 19:17         ` Rich Felker
2017-11-17 19:54         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-01-05 21:28           ` Rich Felker
2018-01-05 21:28             ` Rich Felker
2018-01-05 21:47             ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-01-05 21:47               ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-01-05 22:00               ` Rich Felker
2018-01-05 22:00                 ` Rich Felker
2018-01-05 22:10                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-01-05 22:10                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-03  1:37             ` Rich Felker
2018-05-03  1:37               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-03  2:33               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-03  2:33                 ` Rich Felker
2018-05-03 10:07                 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-03 10:07                   ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-03 15:41                   ` Rich Felker
2018-05-03 15:41                     ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07  1:40                   ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-07  1:40                     ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-07 11:00                     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-07 11:00                       ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-07 13:40                       ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 13:40                         ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 13:50                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-07 13:50                           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-07 14:05                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-07 14:05                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-05-07 14:43                         ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 14:43                           ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 15:13                           ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 15:13                             ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 15:52                             ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 15:52                               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 14:45                       ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 14:45                         ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 15:28                         ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 15:28                           ` Rob Landley
2018-05-07 15:55                           ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 15:55                             ` Rich Felker
2018-05-07 20:01                             ` Rob Landley [this message]
2018-05-07 20:01                               ` Rob Landley
2018-05-08 12:05                       ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-08 12:05                         ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-15  1:41                     ` Rich Felker
2018-05-15  1:41                       ` Rich Felker
2018-05-16  6:42                       ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-16  6:42                         ` Yoshinori Sato
2018-05-18  7:51                         ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-05-18  7:51                           ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

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