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From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ntb@googlegroups.com,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, Jon Mason <jdmason@kudzu.us>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Allen Hubbe <allenbh@gmail.com>,
	Serge Semin <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	Eric Pilmore <epilmore@gigaio.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:58:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea7b7c3c-8ed5-51ec-022a-7d28a5afce82@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bafe9db4-6d5b-0453-d7e7-e49e9293dd01@deltatee.com>


On 1/31/2019 1:48 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On 2019-01-31 1:20 p.m., Dave Jiang wrote:
>> Does this work when the system moves the MSI vector either via software
>> (irqbalance) or BIOS APIC programming (some modes cause round robin
>> behavior)?
>
> I don't know how irqbalance works, and I'm not sure what you are
> referring to by BIOS APIC programming, however I would expect these
> things would not be a problem.
>
> The MSI code I'm presenting here doesn't do anything crazy with the
> interrupts, it allocates and uses them just as any PCI driver would. The
> only real difference here is that instead of a piece of hardware sending
> the IRQ TLP, it will be sent through the memory window (which, from the
> OS's perspective, is just coming from an NTB hardware proxy alias).
>
> Logan
Right. I did that as a hack a while back for some silicon errata 
workaround. When the vector moves, the address for the LAPIC changes. So 
unless it gets updated, you end up writing to the old location and lose 
all the new interrupts. irqbalance is a user daemon that rotates the 
system interrupts around to ensure that not all interrupts are pinned on 
a single core. I think it's enabled by default on several distros. 
Although MSIX has nothing to do with the IOAPIC, the mode that the APIC 
is programmed can have an influence on how the interrupts are delivered. 
There are certain Intel platforms (I don't know if AMD does anything 
like that) puts the IOAPIC in a certain configuration that causes the 
interrupts to be moved in a round robin fashion. I think it's physical 
flat mode? I don't quite recall. Normally on the low end Xeons. It's 
probably worth doing a test run with the irqbalance daemon running and 
make sure you traffic stream doesn't all of sudden stop.
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: dave.jiang at intel.com (Dave Jiang)
Subject: [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:58:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea7b7c3c-8ed5-51ec-022a-7d28a5afce82@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bafe9db4-6d5b-0453-d7e7-e49e9293dd01@deltatee.com>


On 1/31/2019 1:48 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On 2019-01-31 1:20 p.m., Dave Jiang wrote:
>> Does this work when the system moves the MSI vector either via software
>> (irqbalance) or BIOS APIC programming (some modes cause round robin
>> behavior)?
>
> I don't know how irqbalance works, and I'm not sure what you are
> referring to by BIOS APIC programming, however I would expect these
> things would not be a problem.
>
> The MSI code I'm presenting here doesn't do anything crazy with the
> interrupts, it allocates and uses them just as any PCI driver would. The
> only real difference here is that instead of a piece of hardware sending
> the IRQ TLP, it will be sent through the memory window (which, from the
> OS's perspective, is just coming from an NTB hardware proxy alias).
>
> Logan
Right. I did that as a hack a while back for some silicon errata 
workaround. When the vector moves, the address for the LAPIC changes. So 
unless it gets updated, you end up writing to the old location and lose 
all the new interrupts. irqbalance is a user daemon that rotates the 
system interrupts around to ensure that not all interrupts are pinned on 
a single core. I think it's enabled by default on several distros. 
Although MSIX has nothing to do with the IOAPIC, the mode that the APIC 
is programmed can have an influence on how the interrupts are delivered. 
There are certain Intel platforms (I don't know if AMD does anything 
like that) puts the IOAPIC in a certain configuration that causes the 
interrupts to be moved in a round robin fashion. I think it's physical 
flat mode? I don't quite recall. Normally on the low end Xeons. It's 
probably worth doing a test run with the irqbalance daemon running and 
make sure you traffic stream doesn't all of sudden stop.
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: dave.jiang@intel.com (Dave Jiang)
Subject: [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:58:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea7b7c3c-8ed5-51ec-022a-7d28a5afce82@intel.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190131205818.yCk6cjJPcVLXomUIduHT6g6YRRk7i6wjA_XfJzOrA04@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bafe9db4-6d5b-0453-d7e7-e49e9293dd01@deltatee.com>


On 1/31/2019 1:48 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On 2019-01-31 1:20 p.m., Dave Jiang wrote:
>> Does this work when the system moves the MSI vector either via software
>> (irqbalance) or BIOS APIC programming (some modes cause round robin
>> behavior)?
>
> I don't know how irqbalance works, and I'm not sure what you are
> referring to by BIOS APIC programming, however I would expect these
> things would not be a problem.
>
> The MSI code I'm presenting here doesn't do anything crazy with the
> interrupts, it allocates and uses them just as any PCI driver would. The
> only real difference here is that instead of a piece of hardware sending
> the IRQ TLP, it will be sent through the memory window (which, from the
> OS's perspective, is just coming from an NTB hardware proxy alias).
>
> Logan
Right. I did that as a hack a while back for some silicon errata 
workaround. When the vector moves, the address for the LAPIC changes. So 
unless it gets updated, you end up writing to the old location and lose 
all the new interrupts. irqbalance is a user daemon that rotates the 
system interrupts around to ensure that not all interrupts are pinned on 
a single core. I think it's enabled by default on several distros. 
Although MSIX has nothing to do with the IOAPIC, the mode that the APIC 
is programmed can have an influence on how the interrupts are delivered. 
There are certain Intel platforms (I don't know if AMD does anything 
like that) puts the IOAPIC in a certain configuration that causes the 
interrupts to be moved in a round robin fashion. I think it's physical 
flat mode? I don't quite recall. Normally on the low end Xeons. It's 
probably worth doing a test run with the irqbalance daemon running and 
make sure you traffic stream doesn't all of sudden stop.
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-ntb-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org,
	linux-pci-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kselftest-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Jon Mason <jdmason-zqedIHPRSYI@public.gmane.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Allen Hubbe <allenbh-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Serge Semin
	<fancer.lancer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Pilmore <epilmore-Op3I1peydIbQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:58:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea7b7c3c-8ed5-51ec-022a-7d28a5afce82@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bafe9db4-6d5b-0453-d7e7-e49e9293dd01-OTvnGxWRz7hWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>


On 1/31/2019 1:48 PM, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On 2019-01-31 1:20 p.m., Dave Jiang wrote:
>> Does this work when the system moves the MSI vector either via software
>> (irqbalance) or BIOS APIC programming (some modes cause round robin
>> behavior)?
>
> I don't know how irqbalance works, and I'm not sure what you are
> referring to by BIOS APIC programming, however I would expect these
> things would not be a problem.
>
> The MSI code I'm presenting here doesn't do anything crazy with the
> interrupts, it allocates and uses them just as any PCI driver would. The
> only real difference here is that instead of a piece of hardware sending
> the IRQ TLP, it will be sent through the memory window (which, from the
> OS's perspective, is just coming from an NTB hardware proxy alias).
>
> Logan
Right. I did that as a hack a while back for some silicon errata 
workaround. When the vector moves, the address for the LAPIC changes. So 
unless it gets updated, you end up writing to the old location and lose 
all the new interrupts. irqbalance is a user daemon that rotates the 
system interrupts around to ensure that not all interrupts are pinned on 
a single core. I think it's enabled by default on several distros. 
Although MSIX has nothing to do with the IOAPIC, the mode that the APIC 
is programmed can have an influence on how the interrupts are delivered. 
There are certain Intel platforms (I don't know if AMD does anything 
like that) puts the IOAPIC in a certain configuration that causes the 
interrupts to be moved in a round robin fashion. I think it's physical 
flat mode? I don't quite recall. Normally on the low end Xeons. It's 
probably worth doing a test run with the irqbalance daemon running and 
make sure you traffic stream doesn't all of sudden stop.
>

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-31 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-31 18:56 [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56 ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 1/9] iommu/vt-d: Allow interrupts from the entire bus for aliased devices Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-02-01 16:44   ` Joerg Roedel
2019-02-01 16:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2019-02-01 16:44     ` joro
2019-02-01 17:27     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-02-01 17:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-02-01 17:27       ` logang
2019-02-05 19:19       ` Jacob Pan
2019-02-05 19:19         ` Jacob Pan
2019-02-05 19:19         ` jacob.jun.pan
2019-02-05 20:40         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-02-05 20:40           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-02-05 20:40           ` logang
2019-02-05 23:58           ` Jacob Pan
2019-02-05 23:58             ` Jacob Pan
2019-02-05 23:58             ` jacob.jun.pan
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 2/9] PCI/MSI: Support allocating virtual MSI interrupts Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 22:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-31 22:39     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-31 22:39     ` helgaas
2019-01-31 22:52     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 22:52       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 22:52       ` logang
2019-02-01 19:23       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-02-01 19:23         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-02-01 19:23         ` helgaas
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 3/9] PCI/switchtec: Add module parameter to request more interrupts Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 4/9] NTB: Introduce functions to calculate multi-port resource index Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 5/9] NTB: Rename ntb.c to support multiple source files in the module Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 6/9] NTB: Introduce MSI library Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 7/9] NTB: Introduce NTB MSI Test Client Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 8/9] NTB: Add ntb_msi_test support to ntb_test Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 18:56 ` [PATCH 9/9] NTB: Add MSI interrupt support to ntb_transport Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 18:56   ` logang
2019-01-31 20:20 ` [PATCH 0/9] Support using MSI interrupts in ntb_transport Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 20:20   ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 20:20   ` dave.jiang
2019-01-31 20:48   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 20:48     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 20:48     ` logang
2019-01-31 20:58     ` Dave Jiang [this message]
2019-01-31 20:58       ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 20:58       ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 20:58       ` dave.jiang
2019-01-31 22:39       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 22:39         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 22:39         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 22:39         ` logang
2019-01-31 22:46         ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 22:46           ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 22:46           ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 22:46           ` dave.jiang
2019-01-31 23:41           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 23:41             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 23:41             ` logang
2019-01-31 23:48             ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 23:48               ` Dave Jiang
2019-01-31 23:48               ` dave.jiang
2019-01-31 23:52               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 23:52                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 23:52                 ` logang

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