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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: SLONIK.AZ@gmail.com
Cc: "Maxim Vuets" <maxim.vuets@gmail.com>,
	mercurial@selenic.com, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial (for DragonflyBSD)
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:55:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200810261955.10536.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee2a733e0810260805n35c3a637v4739dda938a22518@mail.gmail.com>

I'm not sure if Mercurial mailing list is not subscribe only. Git isn't.

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Leo Razoumov wrote:
> On 10/26/08, Maxim Vuets <maxim.vuets@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 26 Oct 2008 15:15:57 +0100, Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Documentation and ease of use.
>>>
>>>    Mercurial is supposedly better documented and easier to use; I
>>>    think this descends from the early days of Git, where it was not
>>>    very user friendly. IMHO Git has much improved since.  Mercurial
>>>    had 'hgbook' from the beginning; Git User's Manual is more recent.
>>
>> Also, there is http://book.git-scm.com/ that is similar to hgbook, I think.
>>
>>  Thanks for the comprarision!
> 
> I have been using Mercurial for about two years and am very
> comfortable with it.  Here are some cons and pros
> 
> Mercurial PROS:
> * Easier and more consistent UI. Newbie friendly.

I think that _might_ be example of "Worse is better" scenario, with Git
having UI which evolved rather than was designed, and therefore less
consistent.

Also if you are limiting to what is described in main chapters of
'hgbook', namely one branch (one "fork") per repository paradigm
everything is simpler.

> * Better documentation. IMHO, hgbook is by far better than
>   http://book.git-scm.com/

And probably better than "Git User's Manual". There are lot of various
git-related documentation: "Git Magic", "Git for Computer Scientists",
"Git from bottoms up"...

> * Windows support (personally, I do not care)

And I think it is not important for DragonflyBSD.

Besides git _has_ MS Windows support, in the form of Cygwin and in the
form of msysGit project. It is still not as full as Linux support (for
example git-svn comes to mind), but it is not bad.  Well, Mercurial
has TortiouseHg, while Git-Cheetah is in very early stages...

> 
> Mercurial CONS:
> * Less potential than git. Once Ted Tso even said that "git has more
>   legs than mercurial", see
>   http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2007/03/24/git-and-hg/

I agree, and I think it is at least partially because of Git having
cleaner design, even if you have to understand more terms at first.

> * Hg is strictly an SCM system while GIT is a content addressable file
>   system that can be used in other ways, hence the name Global
>   Information Tracker (GIT)

Errr... I think you are mislead by tongue-in-cheek backronym, which was
created in the beginning, when git had very weak porcelain (i.e. SCM UI).

> * Recently, Hg development seems to have somewhat slowed down. To
>   simply put it, there is not enough room in the world for several
>   similar SCM systems. With git's pace and momentum the other SCMs
>   including Hg are fighting an uphill battle.

The competing _distributed_ version control systems left seems to be
Bazaar-NG (Ubuntu), Mercurial (OpenSolaris, Mozilla), Git (Linux kernel,
Freedesktop.org, Ruby on Rails people).  There are many IDEs, many
editors, many web browsers; there is Linux and there are *BSD; I hope
that Mercurial would continue to be developed, and not vanish in
obscurity like Arch and clones...

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-26 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-26  4:28 [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-26 14:15 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial (for DragonflyBSD) Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 14:30   ` Maxim Vuets
2008-10-26 15:05     ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-26 18:55       ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2008-10-27  0:20         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  4:15           ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-27  7:16             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  7:16             ` dhruva
2008-10-27  0:47         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  1:52           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  7:50             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  9:41               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 10:12                 ` Leslie P. Polzer
2008-10-27 10:14                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 12:48                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]                     ` <200810271512.26352.arne_bab@web.de>
2008-10-27 18:01                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 20:48                         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 21:07                           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-27 21:30                             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28  0:13                               ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 17:48                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-28 19:11                                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28 19:38                                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2008-11-06 16:25                                     ` Marcin Kasperski
2008-11-06 17:41                                       ` Isaac Jurado
2008-10-28 19:16                                 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-10-27 23:25                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  9:29             ` Benoit Boissinot
2008-10-27 10:57               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 14:29                 ` 0000 vk
2008-10-27 14:57                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]             ` <1225100597.31813.11.camel@abelardo.lan>
2008-10-27 11:42               ` David Soria Parra
2008-10-27 20:07             ` Brandon Casey
2008-10-27 20:37               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-28  1:28                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-26 15:57   ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-26 19:07     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 19:54       ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-28 12:31 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-28 14:28   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 14:41     ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-28 14:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 15:02         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Matthieu Moy
2008-10-28 15:03       ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-28 15:33       ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-28 19:12         ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:10           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:31           ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-28 23:28             ` Miklos Vajna
2008-11-01  8:06             ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 10:03               ` Santi Béjar
2008-11-01 10:33               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01 10:44                 ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 11:10                   ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 12:26                   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01 13:39                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 17:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-02  1:13                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 10:16         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-29 19:11     ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-29 19:36       ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29 19:48         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-29 19:51           ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29  8:15   ` Miles Bader

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