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From: Jakub Narebski <jnareb@gmail.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?)
Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:26:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811011326.25224.jnareb@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87abcjpvy2.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de>

On Sat, 1 Nov 2008, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Jakub Narebski:
>> Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de> writes:
>>> * Theodore Tso:
>>> 
>>>> In the past I've looked at the possibility of creating a
>>>> bi-directional, incremental gateway between hg and git repositories.
>>>> The main thing which makes this difficult is that hg stores tags
>>>> in-band inside the change-controlled .hgtags file.  This means that if
>>>> you cut a release, tag it, and then create a commit to further modify
>>>> the repository, the new commit is descended from the tag commit,
>>>> whereas in git, the tag is a "bookmark" --- perhaps signed via GPG,
>>>> but not part of the revision history.
>>> 
>>> Couldn't you just keep the .hgtags file and have everyone interested
>>> in the tags use special scripts?
>>> 
>>> (Admittedly, I'm horribly totally by Git's behavior in this area.  I
>>> haven't figured out yet under what circumstances tags are pushed and
>>> pulled, so I'm not totally opposed to the Mercurial model. 8-/)

>> Do you agree that global tags should be both non-versioned and
>> trasferable?
> 
> Yes, I do.  In case of Git, I've got trouble with understanding how to
> actually implement the "transferable" part with Git.  The Mercurial
> way is easier to understand, but it means that tags may need some sort
> of "tag at this revision" qualifier to disambiguate, which is rather
> problematic.

In first page of git-fetch(1):

     When <refspec> stores the fetched result in  tracking  branches,  the  tags
     that  point  at  these branches are automatically followed. This is done by
     first fetching from the remote using  the  given  <refspec>s,  and  if  the
     repository has objects that are pointed by remote tags that it does not yet
     have, then fetch those missing tags. If the other end has tags  that  point
     at branches you are not interested in, you will not get them.

You push tags explicitly (using "tag <tagname>" refspec, or specifying
--tags, --all or --mirror, or setting it up in a config) in git.
 
>> Now Mercurial has chosen to use in-tree '.hgtags' file to have global
>> tags transferable.  Never mind the fact that it had to treat this file
>> in special way to have it non-versioned
> 
> Oops, thought this file was versioned.  Things like
> 
>   <http://tycoon.hpl.hp.com/changeset/932:931d181e9f58/.hgtags>
> 
> suggest it was at some point.

It is half-versioned... :-X  From what I remember of discussion on
#revctrl and reading hgbok it is treated in special way: if you
switch branches or rewind to some older version, .hgtags is always
checked out the most recent version.

I don't know how Mercurial deals with situation where one reposityr
added one tag, and other repository add other...

-- 
Jakub Narebski
Poland

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-01 11:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-26  4:28 [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-26 14:15 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial (for DragonflyBSD) Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 14:30   ` Maxim Vuets
2008-10-26 15:05     ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-26 18:55       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  0:20         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  4:15           ` Leo Razoumov
2008-10-27  7:16             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  7:16             ` dhruva
2008-10-27  0:47         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  1:52           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  7:50             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27  9:41               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 10:12                 ` Leslie P. Polzer
2008-10-27 10:14                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 12:48                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]                     ` <200810271512.26352.arne_bab@web.de>
2008-10-27 18:01                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 20:48                         ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-27 21:07                           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-27 21:30                             ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28  0:13                               ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 17:48                               ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-10-28 19:11                                 ` Arne Babenhauserheide
2008-10-28 19:38                                   ` SZEDER Gábor
2008-11-06 16:25                                     ` Marcin Kasperski
2008-11-06 17:41                                       ` Isaac Jurado
2008-10-28 19:16                                 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-10-27 23:25                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27  9:29             ` Benoit Boissinot
2008-10-27 10:57               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-27 14:29                 ` 0000 vk
2008-10-27 14:57                   ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]             ` <1225100597.31813.11.camel@abelardo.lan>
2008-10-27 11:42               ` David Soria Parra
2008-10-27 20:07             ` Brandon Casey
2008-10-27 20:37               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-28  1:28                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-26 15:57   ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-26 19:07     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-10-26 19:54       ` Felipe Contreras
2008-10-28 12:31 ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial walt
2008-10-28 14:28   ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 14:41     ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-28 14:59       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-28 15:02         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Matthieu Moy
2008-10-28 15:03       ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Nicolas Pitre
2008-10-28 15:33       ` Pieter de Bie
2008-10-28 19:12         ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:10           ` Miklos Vajna
2008-10-28 21:31           ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-28 23:28             ` Miklos Vajna
2008-11-01  8:06             ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 10:03               ` Santi Béjar
2008-11-01 10:33               ` Jakub Narebski
2008-11-01 10:44                 ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 11:10                   ` Florian Weimer
2008-11-01 12:26                   ` Jakub Narebski [this message]
2008-11-01 13:39                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 17:51                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-02  1:13                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-11-01 10:16         ` Git/Mercurial interoperability (and what about bzr?) (was: Re: [VOTE] git versus mercurial) Peter Krefting
2008-10-29 19:11     ` [VOTE] git versus mercurial Shawn O. Pearce
2008-10-29 19:36       ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29 19:48         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-10-29 19:51           ` Boyd Lynn Gerber
2008-10-29  8:15   ` Miles Bader

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