Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?

From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: git-fc@googlegroups.com, "Richard Hansen" <rhansen@bbn.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Dusty Phillips" <dusty@linux.ca>,
	"Antoine Pelisse" <apelisse@gmail.com>,
	"John Keeping" <john@keeping.me.uk>,
	"Christophe Simonis" <christophe@kn.gl>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <tboegi@web.de>
Subject: Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 02:42:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53707b5955034_2b5710592f8aa@nysa.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwf9iAKxbvdPV9Up_T709KwBXJWW4g-F829CRQP4YkivQ@mail.gmail.com>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On May 12, 2014 8:35 AM, "Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This move is already
> > under way, but suddenly Junio changed his mind.
> 
> That "suddenly" wouldn't have anything to do with you being an ass and
> difficult as usual, arguing about everything and just generally being
> contrary?

No, here's where the thread started (A):
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248167

Here I wasn't being an ass:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248186

Here I wasn't being an ass either:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248171

Neither here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248146

Nor here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248195

Nor here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248205

Not an ass here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248213

And not here either:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248236

Then Junio *suddenly* changed his mind (B):
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/247660/focus=248242

That is the sequence of mails (A..B) where I responded, and I wasn't an
ass in eithe one of those, so whatever made Junio change his mind
happened in that interum, and it wasn't me "being an ass".

I bet you made that statement without even botherting to read the
thread. Go on, read the thread, tell where exactly me "being an ass"
made Junio change his mind from A, to B.

Nah, you wouldn't do that, backing up your claims take time, and you are
not willing to spend time on this issue. Even if you were to try to back
up your claim, you couldn't, becasue it's not true. It's much easier to
just throw good sounding baseless claims and walk away.

> Felipe, stop this stupid blaming of everybody but yourself.

Show me evidence that this decision was my fault. Junio certainly hasn't
said so. You just have no idea what we are talking about.

> You make absolutely everything be this horrible disaster, you redefine
> words ("regression") to be whatever you need/want them to be to be

git-remote-hg and git-remote-bzr will likely break in Git v2.0 in certain
situations where they wouldn't in v1.9, or v1.8. Call it whatever you
want. I call that a regression.

> Seriously. Don't try to make this about Junio somehow being the problem.

So Junio is perfect. Got it.

If you don't have the time to actually read the rationale behind Junio's
decision, how would you even know he made the right one? You are just
blindly assuming he is right, and therefore he is not the problem.

What if he was wrong? Nah, that's impossible. Right?

-- 
Felipe Contreras