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From: Stefan Beller <>
To: Felipe Contreras <>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <>,, "Richard Hansen" <>,
	"Jeff King" <>,
	"Git Mailing List" <>,
	"Dusty Phillips" <>,
	"Antoine Pelisse" <>,
	"John Keeping" <>,
	"Christophe Simonis" <>,
	"Torsten Bögershausen" <>
Subject: Re: Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core?
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:28:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5370825f709ef_a8114c1304e2@nysa.notmuch>

2014-05-12 10:12 GMT+02:00 Felipe Contreras <>:
> Felipe Contreras wrote:
>> Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> > Felipe, stop this stupid blaming of everybody but yourself.
>> Show me evidence that this decision was my fault. Junio certainly hasn't
>> said so. You just have no idea what we are talking about.
> Here, let me show you.

I suspect Linus had a reason not to include the mailing lists
in the first place and make a huge public discussion,
but instead wrote to you personally.
I guess this is just Linus desire not to waste the time of everybody
as he learned that these discussions are fruitless sometimes.

Junio C Hamano wrote [in another thread]:
> I would not mind asking the others, as your discussion tactic seems
> to be "repeated voices start sounding like a chorus, and a chorus is
> project concensus".
> Those who are observing from the sideline, please raise your hand if
> you think the three-line "Clarification" Felipe gave us is a fair
> and accurate clarification.  Anybody?
> I also do not mind seeing hands raised of those who do not agree,
> even though I already know that they would be a silent majority.

I think Junio is behaving very professional unlike you, Felipe.
This includes being polite and very patient.
Also this includes weighting different reasons to make
informed rational decisions.

Git being a project widely used and people trusting it for their
work needs to have high quality and cannot go left today and
go right tomorrow, but most of the decisions are done long-term.

Felipe, this may be the reason, why you think nothing changes.
It's just slower than you'd like, but with more thoughts weighted.

Junio, I think you're doing an awesome job in maintaining Git
and leading the community.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-12 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-11 23:34 Should git-remote-hg/bzr be part of the core? Felipe Contreras
     [not found] ` <>
2014-05-12  7:42   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12  8:12     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 10:28       ` Stefan Beller [this message]
2014-05-12 12:05         ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12  9:42 ` Michael Haggerty
2014-05-12 10:35   ` Dennis Kaarsemaker
2014-05-12 10:37   ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 12:05     ` Michael Haggerty
2014-05-12 12:29       ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 13:12         ` David Kastrup
2014-05-12 17:12           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 13:43         ` Michael Haggerty
2014-05-12 17:13           ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 11:00   ` David Kastrup
     [not found]   ` <>
2014-05-12 12:48     ` Felipe Contreras
2014-05-12 13:45       ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2014-05-12 16:13         ` Stefan Beller
2014-05-12 16:40         ` Felipe Contreras

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