From: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
To: Matthias Baumgarten <matthias.baumgarten@aixigo.com>,
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com>
Cc: "git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: pull.rebase config vs. --ff-only on command line
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 12:43:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <60f5b9a9e29d8_13f2e22084b@natae.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa757764-db25-849d-d8d5-e28908059f6b@aixigo.com>
Matthias Baumgarten wrote:
> On 7/16/21 8:00 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> > Matthias Baumgarten wrote:
> >> On 7/16/21 6:44 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> >>> Elijah Newren wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 7:52 AM Matthias Baumgarten
> >>>> <matthias.baumgarten@aixigo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> this is my first time contacting you guys and girls so I hope this mail
> >>>>> achieves the expected standard. I've discovered the following behaviour
> >>>>> of git:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If pull.rebase is configured to true and git pull --ff-only is executed
> >>>>> it seems like the config wins, i.e. issuing "Successfully rebased and
> >>>>> updated refs/heads/...", which is not what I would expect. I always
> >>>>> believed that command line options would overwrite configured options.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is my assumption that command line options always win wrong or is this a
> >>>>> bug?
> >>>>
> >>>> It's a bug.
> >>>
> >>> No it isn't.
> >>>
> >>> Elijah is elevating to fact his opinion of what --ff-only should be
> >>> changed to.
> >>>
> >>> But it has not been changed. Today --ff-only is meant only for the merge
> >>> mode of `git pull`, and like other merge-only options (e.g. --ff,
> >>> --no-ff, and --squash) it's ignored in the rebase mode.
> >>
> >> Shouldn't every explicitly given merge option (like --ff-only) overwrite
> >> any configured option that would not even result in a merge, i.e.
> >> forcing a merge and thus forcing ff-only?
> >
> > Perhaps. Other developers have suggested that before.
> >
> > The problem is that everyone wants to make --ff-only the default, and
> > then we start to get into a tricky situation, because what should these
> > do:
> >
> > git -c pull.ff=only pull
> > git -c pull.ff=only pull --merge
> > git -c pull.ff=only pull --rebase
>
> If my assumption were true, and every explicit (cli given) option would
> overwrite implicitly given ones (i.e. configured options), wouldn't
>
> * git -c pull.ff=only pull, do a fast-forward (or merge)
> * git -c pull.ff=only pull --merge, force a merge commit
> * git -c pull.ff=only pull --rebase, force rebase
The documentation says --ff-only is meant for merges, therefore these
three should be valid and do the same:
git pull --ff-only # --merge is the default
git pull --merge --ff-only
git pull --ff-only --merge
In order for your assumption above to be correct, the semantics of
--ff-only have to be changed (along with the documentation), but people
are *already* relying on the current semantics:
[pull]
ff = only
rebase = true
I made a poll on reddit [1], and 19% (so far) said they do use both
configurations, and they know what `git pull --no-rebase` would do.
In other words: they would expect `git pull` to do a rebase, but
`git pull --merge` to do a fast-forward merge.
Changing the semantics of --ff-only would break behavior they rely on,
unless we break symmetry from --ff-only and pull.ff=only which would be
very hard to explain the documentation.
However, if --ff-only wasn't mapped to pull.ff=only, but
pull.mode=fast-forward, then we can have both: the configurations people
rely on today wouldn't be broken, and your expectation that
`git pull --ff-only` overrides pull.mode=rebase would be met.
It's the perfect solution.
> > One of these will always fail, when it shouldn't
> Would this even apply under the above assumption?
[I think you meant to paste this]
Under your assumption it wouldn't fail, but other behavior users rely on
today would be broken.
> > I proposed a solution for that, but is has been ignored.
> I'm sorry!
It's not me the one that suffers (I don't even use `git pull`), it's the
users that have been negatively affected for more than ten years.
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/git/comments/omcngl/do_you_use_both_pullff_and_pullrebase/
--
Felipe Contreras
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-19 17:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-07-16 14:43 pull.rebase config vs. --ff-only on command line Matthias Baumgarten
2021-07-16 15:03 ` Elijah Newren
2021-07-16 16:44 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-16 16:54 ` Matthias Baumgarten
2021-07-16 18:00 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-19 14:26 ` Matthias Baumgarten
2021-07-19 17:43 ` Felipe Contreras [this message]
2021-07-22 18:57 ` Junio C Hamano
2021-07-22 22:09 ` Felipe Contreras
2021-07-23 9:36 ` Matthias Baumgarten
2021-07-16 16:39 ` Felipe Contreras
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