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From: "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org, "Martin Ågren" <martin.agren@gmail.com>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Jeff King" <peff@peff.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] doc: remove GNU_ROFF option
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 00:11:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YJ3ASK/LezQ86ct1@camp.crustytoothpaste.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <609b5d814b95c_678ff208d6@natae.notmuch>

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On 2021-05-12 at 04:45:53, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> brian m. carlson wrote:
> > By default, groff converts apostrophes in troff source to Unicode
> > apostrophes.  This is helpful and desirable when being used as a
> > typesetter, since it makes the output much cleaner and more readable,
> > but it is a problem in manual pages, since apostrophes are often used
> > around shell commands and these should remain in their ASCII form for
> > compatibility with the shell.
> > 
> > Fortunately, the DocBook stylesheets contain a workaround for this case:
> > they detect the special .g number register, which is set only when using
> > groff, and they define a special macro for apostrophes based on whether
> > or not it is set and use that macro to write out the proper character.
> > As a result, the DocBook stylesheets handle all cases correctly
> > automatically, whether the user is using groff or not, unlike our
> > GNU_ROFF code.
> > 
> > Additionally, this functionality was implemented in 2010.  Since nobody
> > is shipping security support for an operating system that old anymore,
> > we can just safely assume that the user has upgraded their system in the
> > past decade and remove the GNU_ROFF option and its corresponding
> > stylesheet altogether.
> 
> I'm not sure of all that, but my machine uses Arch Linux, it ships with
> groff, I've never used GNU_ROFF=1, and I can copy text with apostrophes
> from the genrated man pages just fine.

I'll rephrase to be clearer.  Solaris 10 is still security supported,
but no major Linux distro is, and I think we'll be both be fine dropping
support for OSes shipped in 2005.

I'm glad to hear confirmation that things work for you, though.
-- 
brian m. carlson (he/him or they/them)
Houston, Texas, US

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-14  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-11 22:27 [PATCH] doc: use asciidoctor to build man pages directly Felipe Contreras
2021-05-11 23:26 ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  0:58   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  2:11     ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: add an option to have Asciidoctor " brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  2:11       ` [PATCH 2/2] doc: remove GNU_ROFF option brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  2:18         ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-12  2:28           ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  4:45         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14  0:11           ` brian m. carlson [this message]
2021-05-15 13:30             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 13:11         ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-12  2:48       ` [PATCH 1/2] doc: add an option to have Asciidoctor build man pages directly Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-12  5:03         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 23:24         ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 12:58           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-15 13:25           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:41       ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 23:38         ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 19:02           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12  4:43       ` Bagas Sanjaya
2021-05-13 23:54         ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-12  6:22       ` Jeff King
2021-05-12  6:30         ` Jeff King
2021-05-12  6:59           ` Jeff King
2021-05-12 19:29             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-13 17:30             ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-13 22:37               ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-12 19:53           ` Eric Sunshine
2021-05-12 22:37             ` Jeff King
2021-05-14 15:34           ` Martin Ågren
2021-05-14  0:31     ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Asciidoctor native manpage builds brian m. carlson
2021-05-14  0:31       ` [PATCH v2 1/2] doc: add an option to have Asciidoctor build man pages directly brian m. carlson
2021-05-14  3:58         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-14  5:27           ` Jeff King
2021-05-14 20:00             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14 19:55           ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 20:52             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14 19:57           ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14 19:53         ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14 20:17           ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 23:31             ` Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14  0:31       ` [PATCH v2 2/2] doc: remove GNU_ROFF option brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 19:07       ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Asciidoctor native manpage builds Felipe Contreras
2021-05-14 20:00         ` brian m. carlson
2021-05-14 21:21           ` Felipe Contreras

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