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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Tan" <jonathantanmy@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	"Felipe Contreras" <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:09:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq7dpi5tvl.fsf@gitster.c.googlers.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X9g9Y9LWc0NtHlQn@coredump.intra.peff.net> (Jeff King's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 23:36:51 -0500")

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

>> Meaning "git checkout origin" would look at origin/HEAD and find the
>> remote-tracking branch it points at, and uses that name?  I think
>> that does make quite a lot of sense.  You are correct to point out
>> that not just "git checkout origin/HEAD", but "git checkout origin",
>> currently detaches the HEAD at that commit, if you have origin/HEAD
>> pointing at one of the remote-tracking branches.
>
> I'm not sure if it's a good idea to change "git checkout origin" here or
> not. It already does something useful. I was mostly suggesting that the
> other thing might _also_ be useful, but I'm not sure if it is wise to
> change the current behavior.

Well, "git checkout origin/HEAD" would also do something useful,
which happens to be identical to "git checkout origin", to detach
HEAD at the commit.

> I was thinking more like an explicit way to trigger the dwim-behavior,
> like:
>
>   # same as "git checkout foo" magic that creates "foo", but we
>   # have said explicitly both that we expect to make the new branch, and
>   # also that we expect it to come from origin.
>   git checkout --make-local origin/foo

By default I think --guess (formerly known as --dwim) is enabled, so
"git checkout foo" is "git checkout --guess foo", which is making
local 'foo' out of the uniquely found remote-tracking branch.  This
new one is to reduce the "uniquely found" part from the magic and
let you be a bit more explicit, but not explicit enough to say "-t"
or "-b foo"?  I am not sure if this is all that useful.

If this were a slightly different proposal, I would see the
convenience value in it, though.  Currently what "--guess" does is:

      If the name 'foo' given does not exist as a local branch,
      and the name appears exactly once as a remote-tracking branch
      from some remote (i.e. 'refs/remotes/origin/foo' exists, but
      there is no other 'refs/remotes/*/foo'), create a local 'foo'
      that builds on that remote-tracking branch and check it out.

What would happen if we tweaked the existing "--guess" behaviour
slightly?

      "git checkout --guess origin/foo", even when there is a second
      remote 'publish' that also has a remote-tracking branch for
      its 'foo' (i.e. both 'refs/remotes/{origin,publish}/foo'
      exists), can be used to disambiguate among these remotes with
      'foo'.  You'd get local 'foo' that builds on 'foo' from the
      remote 'origin' and check it out.

>   # similar, but because we are being explicit, we know it is reasonable
>   # to dereference HEAD to find the actual branch name
>   git checkout --make-local origin/HEAD

The user does not need "git symbolic-ref refs/remotes/origin/HEAD"
if such a feature were available.  "git checkout --some-option origin"
without having to say /HEAD may be a better UI, though.

And "checkout" being a Porcelain, and the DWIM feature that is
always on is subject to be improved for human use, I do not see why
that --some-option cannot be --guess.  If I want to get the current
behaviour, I can explicitly say "git checkout --detach origin"
anyway, no?

> That seems orthogonal. Whether there is checkout magic or not, changing
> what origin/HEAD points to would be disruptive to selecting it as a
> tracking source, or doing diffs, or whatever. But that is why the
> proposal in that series was to make the behavior configurable, and
> default to "fill it in if missing" as the default, not "always update on
> fetch".

Ah, I totally forgot that the favoured variant was "fill in if
missing, but don't move once it is set".  Yes, I think that is a
sensible default.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-16  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-08  1:31 Cloning empty repository uses locally configured default branch name Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08  2:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08  2:32   ` brian m. carlson
2020-12-08 18:55   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:00     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-08 15:58 ` Jeff King
2020-12-08 20:06   ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-08 21:15     ` Jeff King
2020-12-11 21:05 ` [PATCH] clone: in protocol v2, use remote's default branch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-11 23:41   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-14 12:38   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-14 15:51     ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 16:30     ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  1:41       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2020-12-15  2:22         ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  2:38         ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  2:55           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-15  4:36             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  3:09               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2020-12-16 18:39                 ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 20:56                   ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:19                     ` Jeff King
2020-12-15  3:22         ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-14 19:25     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-14 19:42       ` Felipe Contreras
2020-12-15  1:27   ` Jeff King
2020-12-15 19:10     ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] Cloning with remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:16       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16 23:49         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16 18:23       ` Jeff King
2020-12-16 23:54         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-17  1:32           ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-18  6:16             ` Jeff King
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-16  6:20       ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-16  2:07     ` [PATCH v2 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:30     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 22:31     ` [PATCH v3 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2020-12-21 23:48     ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-21 20:14     ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54   ` [PATCH v4 " Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:48       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:13         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:16           ` Jeff King
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 2/3] connect, transport: add no-op arg for future patch Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 20:55       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:16         ` Jonathan Tan
2020-12-22 21:54     ` [PATCH v4 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-21 21:02       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 18:22         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:04           ` Jeff King
2021-01-28  5:50             ` Junio C Hamano
2020-12-22 22:06     ` [PATCH v4 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 18:55 ` [PATCH v5 " Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:38     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-26 23:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  3:55         ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 23:20       ` Jeff King
2021-01-26 23:38         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-29 20:23       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-29 22:04         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:20           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  5:00             ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:28     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:04       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 21:54     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:06       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 18:55   ` [PATCH v5 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-01-26 22:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-30  4:27       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-27  1:11   ` [PATCH v5 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  4:25     ` Jeff King
2021-01-27  6:14       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-01-27  1:41   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-01-30  4:41     ` Jonathan Tan
2021-01-30 11:13       ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-02  2:22       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-03 14:23         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02  2:14 ` [PATCH v6 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:14   ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 16:55     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-02 18:34       ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02 22:17         ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-03  1:04           ` Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-02  2:15   ` [PATCH v6 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58 ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 16:10     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  4:58   ` [PATCH v7 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05  5:25   ` [PATCH v7 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 16:15     ` Jeff King
2021-02-05 21:15     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-02-05 23:07       ` Junio C Hamano
2021-02-05 20:48 ` [PATCH v8 " Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 1/3] ls-refs: report unborn targets of symrefs Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 2/3] connect, transport: encapsulate arg in struct Jonathan Tan
2021-02-05 20:48   ` [PATCH v8 3/3] clone: respect remote unborn HEAD Jonathan Tan
2021-02-06 18:51   ` [PATCH v8 0/3] Cloning with " Junio C Hamano
2021-02-08 22:28     ` Junio C Hamano

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