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From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com>
Cc: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, "Taylor Blau" <me@ttaylorr.com>,
	"Patrick Steinhardt" <ps@pks.im>
Subject: Re: Nesting topics within other threads
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 14:12:20 +0900
Message-ID: <xmqqsg397jyj.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ecb3727-106f-3d04-976a-36aa03a61caf@gmail.com> (Derrick Stolee's message of "Wed, 28 Apr 2021 15:09:28 -0400")

Derrick Stolee <stolee@gmail.com> writes:

> On 4/28/2021 12:26 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> Simplify the setup code in repo-settings.c in various ways, making the
>> code shorter, easier to read, and requiring fewer hacks to do the same
>> thing as it did before:
>
> This patch is interesting, and I'll review it when I have some more
> time. Probably tomorrow.
>
> But I thought that I would point out that this pattern of adding a
> patch within the thread of a larger series makes it very difficult
> to separate the two. I use an email client that groups messages by
> thread in order to help parse meaningful discussion from the list
> which otherwise looks like a fire hose of noise. Now, this patch is
> linked to the FS Monitor thread and feedback to either will trigger
> the thread as having unread messages.
>
> I find it very difficult to track multiple patch series that are
> being juggled in the same thread. It is mentally taxing enough that
> I have avoided reviewing code presented this way to save myself the
> effort of tracking which patches go with what topic in what order.

I do find it distracting to have a full "ah, I just thought of
something while discussing this unrelated series" patch fairly
irritating for the same reason.  It however is unavoidable human
nature that we come up with ideas while thinking about something not
necessarily related.  So it largely is a presentation issue.

I really appreciate the way some people (Peff is a stellar example,
but there are others who are as good at this) handle these tangents,
where the message sent to an existing thread is limited to only give
an outline of the idea (possibly with "something like this?" patch
for illustration) and then they quickly get out of the way of the
discussion by starting a separate thread, while back-referencing "So
here is a proper patch based on the idea I interjected in the
discussion of that other topic."  And the discussion on the tangent
will be done on its own thread.



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Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-01 15:40 [PATCH 00/23] [RFC] Builtin FSMonitor Feature Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 01/23] fsmonitor--daemon: man page and documentation Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 14:13   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-28 13:54     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 02/23] fsmonitor-ipc: create client routines for git-fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 14:31   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-26 20:20     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-26 21:02       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-28 19:26     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 03/23] config: FSMonitor is repository-specific Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 04/23] fsmonitor: introduce `core.useBuiltinFSMonitor` to call the daemon via IPC Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 14:56   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-27  9:20     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-27 12:42       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-28  7:59         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-28 16:26           ` [PATCH] repo-settings.c: simplify the setup Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-28 19:09             ` Nesting topics within other threads (was: [PATCH] repo-settings.c: simplify the setup) Derrick Stolee
2021-04-28 23:01               ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-05-05 16:12                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-29  5:12               ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2021-04-29 12:14                 ` Nesting topics within other threads Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-04-29 20:14                   ` Jeff King
2021-04-30  0:07                   ` Junio C Hamano
2021-04-30 14:23     ` [PATCH 04/23] fsmonitor: introduce `core.useBuiltinFSMonitor` to call the daemon via IPC Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 05/23] fsmonitor--daemon: add a built-in fsmonitor daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 15:08   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-26 15:45     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 14:31       ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 06/23] fsmonitor--daemon: implement client command options Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 15:12   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 14:33     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 07/23] fsmonitor-fs-listen-win32: stub in backend for Windows Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 15:23   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 08/23] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: stub in backend for MacOS Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 09/23] fsmonitor--daemon: implement daemon command options Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 15:47   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-26 16:12     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 15:18       ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-30 15:59     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 10/23] fsmonitor--daemon: add pathname classification Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 19:17   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-26 20:11     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-26 20:24       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 11/23] fsmonitor--daemon: define token-ids Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 19:49   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-26 20:01     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-26 20:03       ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 16:17     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 12/23] fsmonitor--daemon: create token-based changed path cache Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 20:22   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 17:36     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 13/23] fsmonitor-fs-listen-win32: implement FSMonitor backend on Windows Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 17:22   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-27 17:41     ` Eric Sunshine
2021-04-30 19:32     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 14/23] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: add macos header files for FSEvent Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 18:13   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 15/23] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: implement FSEvent listener on MacOS Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 18:35   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-30 20:05     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 16/23] fsmonitor--daemon: implement handle_client callback Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-26 21:01   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-03 15:04     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-05-13 18:52   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:40 ` [PATCH 17/23] fsmonitor--daemon: periodically truncate list of modified files Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 13:24   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 18/23] fsmonitor--daemon:: introduce client delay for testing Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 13:36   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 19/23] fsmonitor--daemon: use a cookie file to sync with file system Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 14:23   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-05-03 21:59     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 20/23] fsmonitor: force update index when fsmonitor token advances Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 14:52   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 21/23] t7527: create test for fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 15:41   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 22/23] p7519: add fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 15:45   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-01 15:41 ` [PATCH 23/23] t7527: test status with untracked-cache and fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-04-27 15:51   ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-16 22:44 ` [PATCH 00/23] [RFC] Builtin FSMonitor Feature Junio C Hamano
2021-04-20 15:27   ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-04-20 19:13     ` Jeff Hostetler
2021-04-21 13:17     ` Derrick Stolee
2021-04-27 18:49 ` FS Monitor Windows Performance (was [PATCH 00/23] [RFC] Builtin FSMonitor Feature) Derrick Stolee
2021-04-27 19:31 ` FS Monitor macOS " Derrick Stolee
2021-05-22 13:56 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] Builtin FSMonitor Feature Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 01/28] simple-ipc: preparations for supporting binary messages Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 02/28] fsmonitor--daemon: man page Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 03/28] fsmonitor--daemon: update fsmonitor documentation Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 04/28] fsmonitor-ipc: create client routines for git-fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-06-02 11:24     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-06-14 21:23       ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 05/28] help: include fsmonitor--daemon feature flag in version info Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 06/28] config: FSMonitor is repository-specific Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 07/28] fsmonitor: introduce `core.useBuiltinFSMonitor` to call the daemon via IPC Johannes Schindelin via GitGitGadget
2021-06-14 21:28     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 08/28] fsmonitor--daemon: add a built-in fsmonitor daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 09/28] fsmonitor--daemon: implement client command options Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 10/28] t/helper/fsmonitor-client: create IPC client to talk to FSMonitor Daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-06-11  6:32     ` Junio C Hamano
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 11/28] fsmonitor-fs-listen-win32: stub in backend for Windows Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 12/28] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: stub in backend for MacOS Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 13/28] fsmonitor--daemon: implement daemon command options Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 14/28] fsmonitor--daemon: add pathname classification Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 15/28] fsmonitor--daemon: define token-ids Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 16/28] fsmonitor--daemon: create token-based changed path cache Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 17/28] fsmonitor-fs-listen-win32: implement FSMonitor backend on Windows Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 18/28] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: add macos header files for FSEvent Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 19/28] fsmonitor-fs-listen-macos: implement FSEvent listener on MacOS Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:56   ` [PATCH v2 20/28] fsmonitor--daemon: implement handle_client callback Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 21/28] fsmonitor--daemon: periodically truncate list of modified files Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 22/28] fsmonitor--daemon: use a cookie file to sync with file system Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-06-14 21:42     ` Johannes Schindelin
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 23/28] fsmonitor: enhance existing comments Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 24/28] fsmonitor: force update index after large responses Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 25/28] t7527: create test for fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 26/28] p7519: add fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 27/28] t7527: test status with untracked-cache and fsmonitor--daemon Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-22 13:57   ` [PATCH v2 28/28] t/perf: avoid copying builtin fsmonitor files into test repo Jeff Hostetler via GitGitGadget
2021-05-27  2:06   ` [PATCH v2 00/28] Builtin FSMonitor Feature Junio C Hamano
2021-06-02 11:28     ` Johannes Schindelin

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