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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [patch V5 14/14] MDS basics 14
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2019 18:49:47 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1902271846090.1644@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190227152038.298511806@linutronix.de>

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019, speck for Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> +Virtualization mitigation
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> +
> +  The protection for host to guest transition depends on the L1TF
> +  vulnerability of the CPU:
> +
> +  - CPU is affected by L1TF:
> +
> +    If the L1D flush mitigation is enabled and up to date microcode is
> +    available, the L1D flush mitigation is automatically protecting the
> +    guest transition. If the L1D flush mitigation is disabled the MDS
> +    mitigation is disabled as well.

Not true. Dammit. Write patch, write documentation, hate it, change patch,
get dragged into a meeting, forget about documentation. I so hate my life.

> +    For details on L1TF and virtualization see:
> +    :ref:`Documentation/admin-guide/hw-vuln//l1tf.rst <mitigation_control_kvm>`.
> +
> +  - CPU is not affected by L1TF:
> +
> +    CPU buffers are flushed before entering the guest when the host MDS
> +    protection is enabled.
> +
> +  The resulting MDS protection matrix for the host to guest transition:
> +
> +  ============ ===== ============= ============ =================
> +   L1TF         MDS   VMX-L1FLUSH   Host MDS     State
> +
> +   Don't care   No    Don't care    N/A          Not affected
> +
> +   Yes          Yes   Disabled      Don't care   Vulnerable

This has to be:

 +   Yes          Yes   Disabled      Off   Vulnerable
 +   Yes          Yes   Disabled      Full  Mitigated

Bah. I changed this because the L1TF mitigation is off when EPT is
disabled, but in that case the MDS mitigation should not hang off the L1TF
state.

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-27 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-27 15:09 [patch V5 00/14] MDS basics 0 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 01/14] MDS basics 1 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-28 13:08   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 02/14] MDS basics 2 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-28 13:55   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-02-28 14:09     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-28 20:23       ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-01 16:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 03/14] MDS basics 3 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 16:34   ` [MODERATED] " Greg KH
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 04/14] MDS basics 4 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 05/14] MDS basics 5 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 06/14] MDS basics 6 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 07/14] MDS basics 7 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 17:07   ` [MODERATED] " Greg KH
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 08/14] MDS basics 8 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-28  8:11   ` [MODERATED] " Greg KH
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 09/14] MDS basics 9 Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-01 14:04   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-01 16:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-01 16:40       ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-01 18:39         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-03-01 19:15           ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-01 22:38             ` [MODERATED] " Andrea Arcangeli
2019-03-01 22:58               ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-02 19:22                 ` [MODERATED] Re: [SPAM] " Dave Hansen
2019-03-02 20:39                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 10/14] MDS basics 10 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 11/14] MDS basics 11 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 12/14] MDS basics 12 Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-01 22:00   ` [MODERATED] " mark gross
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 13/14] MDS basics 13 Thomas Gleixner
2019-03-01 22:04   ` [MODERATED] " mark gross
2019-02-27 15:09 ` [patch V5 14/14] MDS basics 14 Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 17:49   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2019-02-27 16:26 ` [MODERATED] Re: [patch V5 00/14] MDS basics 0 Linus Torvalds
2019-02-27 17:51   ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 18:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 19:50       ` [MODERATED] " Linus Torvalds
2019-02-27 20:05         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-27 21:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-28  1:04   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-02-27 23:06 ` mark gross
2019-02-28  6:58   ` Thomas Gleixner

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