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From: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Clay Harris <bugs@claycon.org>, io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Feature request: Please implement IORING_OP_TEE
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:57:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <639bc18d-7419-29b9-bbbe-0b011795f38b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a444e4c-bd51-b32c-b9e0-5e157b20e79d@kernel.dk>

On 27/04/2020 23:02, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 4/27/20 12:22 PM, Jann Horn wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>>> On 4/27/20 9:40 AM, Clay Harris wrote:
>>>> I was excited to see IORING_OP_SPLICE go in, but disappointed that tee
>>>> didn't go in at the same time.  It would be very useful to copy pipe
>>>> buffers in an async program.
>>>
>>> Pavel, care to wire up tee? From a quick look, looks like just exposing
>>> do_tee() and calling that, so should be trivial.
>>
>> Just out of curiosity:
>>
>> What's the purpose of doing that via io_uring? Non-blocking sys_tee()
>> just shoves around some metadata, it doesn't do any I/O, right? Is
>> this purely for syscall-batching reasons? (And does that mean that you
>> would also add syscalls like epoll_wait() and futex() to io_uring?) Or
>> is this because you're worried about blocking on the pipe mutex?
> 
> Right, it doesn't do any IO. It does potentially block on the inode
> mutex, but that's about it. I think the reasons are mainly:

Good catch, the waiting probably can happen with splice as well.
I need to read it through, but looks strange that it just ignores O_NONBLOCK,
is there some upper bound for holding it or something?

> 
> - Keep the interfaces the same, instead of using both sync and async
>   calls.
> - Bundling/batch reasons, either in same submission, or chained.
> 
> Some folks have talked about futex, and epoll_wait would also be a
> natural extension as well, since we already have the ctl part.

-- 
Pavel Begunkov

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-29 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-27 15:40 Feature request: Please implement IORING_OP_TEE Clay Harris
2020-04-27 15:55 ` Jens Axboe
2020-04-27 18:03   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-04-27 18:11     ` Jens Axboe
2020-04-27 18:22   ` Jann Horn
2020-04-27 20:02     ` Jens Axboe
2020-04-29 15:57       ` Pavel Begunkov [this message]
2020-04-27 20:17     ` Clay Harris

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