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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Clay Harris <bugs@claycon.org>,
	io-uring <io-uring@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Feature request: Please implement IORING_OP_TEE
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:02:17 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a444e4c-bd51-b32c-b9e0-5e157b20e79d@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1fc1_U7AtWAM+Jh6QjV-oAtAW2sQ2XSz9s+53SN_wSFg@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/27/20 12:22 PM, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 5:56 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>> On 4/27/20 9:40 AM, Clay Harris wrote:
>>> I was excited to see IORING_OP_SPLICE go in, but disappointed that tee
>>> didn't go in at the same time.  It would be very useful to copy pipe
>>> buffers in an async program.
>>
>> Pavel, care to wire up tee? From a quick look, looks like just exposing
>> do_tee() and calling that, so should be trivial.
> 
> Just out of curiosity:
> 
> What's the purpose of doing that via io_uring? Non-blocking sys_tee()
> just shoves around some metadata, it doesn't do any I/O, right? Is
> this purely for syscall-batching reasons? (And does that mean that you
> would also add syscalls like epoll_wait() and futex() to io_uring?) Or
> is this because you're worried about blocking on the pipe mutex?

Right, it doesn't do any IO. It does potentially block on the inode
mutex, but that's about it. I think the reasons are mainly:

- Keep the interfaces the same, instead of using both sync and async
  calls.
- Bundling/batch reasons, either in same submission, or chained.

Some folks have talked about futex, and epoll_wait would also be a
natural extension as well, since we already have the ctl part.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-27 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-27 15:40 Feature request: Please implement IORING_OP_TEE Clay Harris
2020-04-27 15:55 ` Jens Axboe
2020-04-27 18:03   ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-04-27 18:11     ` Jens Axboe
2020-04-27 18:22   ` Jann Horn
2020-04-27 20:02     ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-04-29 15:57       ` Pavel Begunkov
2020-04-27 20:17     ` Clay Harris

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