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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	pair@us.ibm.com, brijesh.singh@amd.com, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 9/9] host trust limitation: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 22:04:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200619220431.54288e84.pasic@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200619121638.GK700896@redhat.com>

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 13:16:38 +0100
Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:

[..]

> > > > > @@ -1165,6 +1167,15 @@ void machine_run_board_init(MachineState *machine)
> > > > >           * areas.
> > > > >           */
> > > > >          machine_set_mem_merge(OBJECT(machine), false, &error_abort);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        /*
> > > > > +         * Virtio devices can't count on directly accessing guest
> > > > > +         * memory, so they need iommu_platform=on to use normal DMA
> > > > > +         * mechanisms.  That requires disabling legacy virtio support
> > > > > +         * for virtio pci devices
> > > > > +         */
> > > > > +        object_register_sugar_prop(TYPE_VIRTIO_PCI, "disable-legacy", "on");
> > > > > +        object_register_sugar_prop(TYPE_VIRTIO_DEVICE, "iommu_platform", "on");
> > > > >      }  
> > > > 
> > > > Silently changing the user's request configuration like this is a bad idea.
> > > > The "disable-legacy" option in particular is undesirable as that switches
> > > > the device to virtio-1.0 only mode, which exposes a different PCI ID to
> > > > the guest.
> > > > 
> > > > If some options are incompatible with encryption, then we should raise a
> > > > fatal error at startup, so applications/admins are aware that their requested
> > > > config is broken.  
> > >
> > > Agreed - my suggestion is an on/off/auto property, auto value
> > > changes automatically, on/off is validated.  
> > 
> > In fact should we extend all bit properties to allow an auto value?  
> 
> If "auto" was made the default that creates a similar headache, as to
> preserve existing configuration semantics we expose to apps, libvirt
> would need to find all the properties changed to use "auto" and manually
> set them back to on/off explicitly.

Hm, does that mean we can't change the default for any qemu property?

I would expect that the defaults most remain invariant for any
particular machine version. Conceptually, IMHO the default could change
with a new machine version, but we would need some mechanism to ensure
compatibility for old machine versions.

Regards,
Halil

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-19 20:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-19  2:05 [PATCH v3 0/9] Generalize memory encryption models David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] host trust limitation: Introduce new host trust limitation interface David Gibson
2020-06-26 11:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-14 19:26   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] host trust limitation: Handle memory encryption via interface David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] host trust limitation: Move side effect out of machine_set_memory_encryption() David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] host trust limitation: Rework the "memory-encryption" property David Gibson
2020-07-14 19:36   ` Richard Henderson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] host trust limitation: Decouple kvm_memcrypt_*() helpers from KVM David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:05 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] host trust limitation: Add Error ** to HostTrustLimitation::kvm_init David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] spapr: Add PEF based host trust limitation David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] spapr: PEF: block migration David Gibson
2020-06-26 10:33   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-07-05  7:38     ` David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:06 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] host trust limitation: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests David Gibson
2020-06-19 10:12   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 11:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-19 11:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-19 12:16         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-19 20:04           ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2020-06-24  7:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-06-25  4:57             ` David Gibson
2020-06-25  5:02       ` David Gibson
2020-06-19 14:45     ` David Gibson
2020-06-19 15:05       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-20  8:24         ` David Gibson
2020-06-22  9:09           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-25  5:06             ` David Gibson
2020-06-19  2:42 ` [PATCH v3 0/9] Generalize memory encryption models no-reply
2020-06-19  8:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19  9:45   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-19  9:56     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-19 10:05       ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-19 10:10         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-22 12:02           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-25  5:25             ` David Gibson
2020-06-25  7:06               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-26  4:42                 ` David Gibson
2020-06-26  6:53                   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-26  9:01                     ` Janosch Frank
2020-06-26  9:32                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-26  9:49                         ` Janosch Frank
2020-06-26 10:29                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-06-26 10:58                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-06-26 12:49                               ` Janosch Frank
2020-07-01 11:59                                 ` Halil Pasic
2020-06-19  9:48   ` David Gibson
2020-06-19 10:04     ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-25  5:42       ` David Gibson
2020-06-25  6:59         ` David Hildenbrand
2020-06-25  9:49           ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-22 14:27 ` Christian Borntraeger
2020-06-24  7:06   ` Cornelia Huck
2020-06-25  5:47     ` David Gibson
2020-06-25  5:48       ` David Gibson
2020-06-25  5:44   ` David Gibson

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