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From: Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: brijesh.singh@amd.com, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 10/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for kernel address
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 10:49:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4abe9ed9-a296-7b27-6b81-288185394ff6@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVEyBaG41gS4ntu6ikJqeiWs2gMuqfo_Yk0cdgpHyN9Dg@mail.gmail.com>


On 5/3/21 10:03 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 7:44 AM Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
>> On 4/30/21 5:37 AM, Brijesh Singh wrote:
>>> When SEV-SNP is enabled globally, a write from the host goes through the
>>> RMP check. When the host writes to pages, hardware checks the following
>>> conditions at the end of page walk:
>>>
>>> 1. Assigned bit in the RMP table is zero (i.e page is shared).
>>> 2. If the page table entry that gives the sPA indicates that the target
>>>    page size is a large page, then all RMP entries for the 4KB
>>>    constituting pages of the target must have the assigned bit 0.
>>> 3. Immutable bit in the RMP table is not zero.
>>>
>>> The hardware will raise page fault if one of the above conditions is not
>>> met. A host should not encounter the RMP fault in normal execution, but
>>> a malicious guest could trick the hypervisor into it. e.g., a guest does
>>> not make the GHCB page shared, on #VMGEXIT, the hypervisor will attempt
>>> to write to GHCB page.
>> Is that the only case which is left?  If so, why don't you simply split
>> the direct map for GHCB pages before giving them to the guest?  Or, map
>> them with vmap() so that the mapping is always 4k?
> If I read Brijesh's message right, this isn't about 4k.  It's about
> the guest violating host expectations about the page type.
>
> I need to go and do a full read of all the relevant specs, but I think
> there's an analogous situation in TDX: if the host touches guest
> private memory, the TDX hardware will get extremely angry (more so
> than AMD hardware).  And, if I have understood this patch correctly,
> it's fudging around the underlying bug by intentionally screwing up
> the RMP contents to avoid a page fault.  Assuming I've understood
> everything correctly (a big if!), then I think this is backwards.  The
> host kernel should not ever access guest memory without a plan in
> place to handle failure.  We need real accessors, along the lines of
> copy_from_guest() and copy_to_guest().

You understood it correctly. Its an underlying bug either in host or
guest which may cause the host accessing the guest private pages. If it
happen avoiding the host crash is much preferred (especially when its a
guest kernel bug).



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-30 12:37 [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 00/37] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 01/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 02/37] KVM: SVM: Provide the Hypervisor Feature support VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 03/37] KVM: SVM: Increase the GHCB protocol version Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 04/37] x86/cpufeatures: Add SEV-SNP CPU feature Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 05/37] x86/sev: Add the host SEV-SNP initialization support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 06/37] x86/sev: Add RMP entry lookup helpers Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 07/37] x86/sev: Add helper functions for RMPUPDATE and PSMASH instruction Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 08/37] x86/sev: Split the physmap when adding the page in RMP table Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 15:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-05-03 15:15   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 15:41     ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-07 11:28       ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 09/37] x86/traps: Define RMP violation #PF error code Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 10/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for kernel address Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 14:44   ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-03 15:03     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 15:49       ` Brijesh Singh [this message]
2021-05-03 15:37     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 16:15       ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-03 17:19         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 17:31           ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 17:40           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-05-03 19:41             ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-03 19:43               ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-04 12:31                 ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-04 14:33                   ` Dave Hansen
2021-05-04 15:16                     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 11/37] x86/fault: Add support to handle the RMP fault for user address Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 12/37] crypto:ccp: Define the SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 13/37] crypto: ccp: Add support to initialize the AMD-SP for SEV-SNP Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:37 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 14/37] crypto: ccp: Shutdown SNP firmware on kexec Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 15/37] crypto:ccp: Provide APIs to issue SEV-SNP commands Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 16/37] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy TMR allocation when SNP is enabled Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 18:23   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:07     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 17/37] crypto: ccp: Handle the legacy SEV command " Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 18/37] KVM: SVM: make AVIC backing, VMSA and VMCB memory allocation SNP safe Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 19/37] KVM: SVM: Add initial SEV-SNP support Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 20/37] KVM: SVM: define new SEV_FEATURES field in the VMCB Save State Area Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 21/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SNP_INIT command Brijesh Singh
2021-05-06 20:25   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-06 22:29     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 22/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 23/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 24/37] KVM: SVM: Reclaim the guest pages when SEV-SNP VM terminates Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 25/37] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 26/37] KVM: X86: Add kvm_x86_ops to get the max page level for the TDP Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 27/37] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_map_tdp_page() for use by SEV Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 28/37] KVM: X86: Introduce kvm_mmu_get_tdp_walk() for SEV-SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 29/37] KVM: X86: Define new RMP check related #NPF error bits Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 30/37] KVM: X86: update page-fault trace to log the 64-bit error code Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 31/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 32/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 17:30   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 17:51     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 19:59       ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:50         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 33/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle " Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 34/37] KVM: X86: Export the kvm_zap_gfn_range() for the SNP use Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 35/37] KVM: SVM: Add support to handle the RMP nested page fault Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 36/37] KVM: SVM: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 18:57   ` Peter Gonda
2021-05-10 20:14     ` Brijesh Singh
2021-05-10 21:17       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-05-11 18:34         ` Brijesh Singh
2021-04-30 12:38 ` [PATCH Part2 RFC v2 37/37] KVM: SVM: Advertise the SEV-SNP feature support Brijesh Singh

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