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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Reiji Watanabe <reijiw@google.com>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
	Peng Liang <liangpeng10@huawei.com>,
	Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Ricardo Koller <ricarkol@google.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oupton@google.com>,
	Jing Zhang <jingzhangos@google.com>,
	Raghavendra Rao Anata <rananta@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 02/29] KVM: arm64: Save ID registers' sanitized value per vCPU
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:03:39 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o86bchok.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAeT=Fxcd9ExAXP-c6N-LYAT8_SGYUMHHeGO5dCW8=K+m=WTMQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 04:39:27 +0000,
Reiji Watanabe <reijiw@google.com> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 4:37 AM Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 06:43:32 +0000,
> > Reiji Watanabe <reijiw@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Extend sys_regs[] of kvm_cpu_context for ID registers and save ID
> > > registers' sanitized value in the array for the vCPU at the first
> > > vCPU reset. Use the saved ones when ID registers are read by
> > > userspace (via KVM_GET_ONE_REG) or the guest.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Reiji Watanabe <reijiw@google.com>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h | 10 +++++++
> > >  arch/arm64/kvm/sys_regs.c         | 43 +++++++++++++++++++------------
> > >  2 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > index edbe2cb21947..72db73c79403 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > @@ -146,6 +146,14 @@ struct kvm_vcpu_fault_info {
> > >       u64 disr_el1;           /* Deferred [SError] Status Register */
> > >  };
> > >
> > > +/*
> > > + * (Op0, Op1, CRn, CRm, Op2) of ID registers is (3, 0, 0, crm, op2),
> > > + * where 0<=crm<8, 0<=op2<8.
> > > + */
> > > +#define KVM_ARM_ID_REG_MAX_NUM 64
> > > +#define IDREG_IDX(id)                ((sys_reg_CRm(id) << 3) | sys_reg_Op2(id))
> > > +#define IDREG_SYS_IDX(id)    (ID_REG_BASE + IDREG_IDX(id))
> > > +
> > >  enum vcpu_sysreg {
> > >       __INVALID_SYSREG__,   /* 0 is reserved as an invalid value */
> > >       MPIDR_EL1,      /* MultiProcessor Affinity Register */
> > > @@ -210,6 +218,8 @@ enum vcpu_sysreg {
> > >       CNTP_CVAL_EL0,
> > >       CNTP_CTL_EL0,
> > >
> > > +     ID_REG_BASE,
> > > +     ID_REG_END = ID_REG_BASE + KVM_ARM_ID_REG_MAX_NUM - 1,
> >
> > It is rather unclear to me why we want these registers to be
> > replicated on a per-CPU basis. Yes, this fits the architecture, but
> > that's also a total waste of memory if you have more than a single
> > CPU, because we make a point in only exposing homogeneous properties
> > to the VM (I don't think anyone intends to support vcpu asymmetry in a
> > VM, and 64 registers per vcpu is not an insignificant memory usage).
> >
> > If there are no reasons for this to be per-CPU, please move it to be
> > global to the VM. This also mean that once a vcpu has reset, it
> > shouldn't be possible to affect the registers. This shouldn't affect
> > the userspace API though.
> 
> 
> Currently, userspace can configure different CPU features for each vCPU
> with KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT, which indirectly affect ID registers.
> I'm not sure if anyone actually does that though.

But the way the ID regs are affected is always global AFAICT. For
example, if you instantiate a PMU, you do so on all vcpus, even of the
architecture allows you to build something completely asymmetric.

> Since I personally thought having ID registers per vCPU more naturally
> fits the behavior of KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT and makes more straightforward
> behavior of KVM_SET_ONE_REG, I chose that.

I agree that this is the logical approach from an architectural PoV.

> (That would be also better in terms of vCPUs scalability for live migration
>  considering a case where userspace tries to restore ID registers for
>  many vCPUs in parallel during live migration.  Userspace could avoid that,
>  and there are ways for KVM to mitigate that though.)

I think these are orthogonal things. We can expose a per-vcpu view,
but there is no need to have per-vcpu storage and to allow asymmetric
VMs. If I have anything to say about the future of KVM/arm64, it will
be that I don't want to support this at all.

> Having ID registers per-VM is of course feasible even while maintaining
> the current behavior of KVM_ARM_VCPU_INIT though.

Exactly. per-VM storage, and per-vcpu visibility. It will prevent all
sort of odd behaviours.

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-23 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-17  6:43 [RFC PATCH v3 00/29] KVM: arm64: Make CPU ID registers writable by userspace Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/29] KVM: arm64: Add has_reset_once flag for vcpu Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-21 12:36   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-23  0:51     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/29] KVM: arm64: Save ID registers' sanitized value per vCPU Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-18 20:36   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-18 22:00     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 18:08       ` Eric Auger
2021-11-21 12:36   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-23  4:39     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-23 10:03       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2021-11-23 17:12         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 10:58   ` Eric Auger
2021-12-04  1:45     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-07  9:34       ` Eric Auger
2021-12-08  5:57         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-08  7:09           ` Eric Auger
2021-12-08  7:18             ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/29] KVM: arm64: Introduce struct id_reg_info Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-18 20:36   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-19  4:47     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-21 12:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-23  0:56         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 18:22       ` Eric Auger
2021-11-25  6:05         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-21 12:37   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-25  5:27     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-01 15:38       ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-02  4:32         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 21:07   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-25  6:40     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 12:51       ` Eric Auger
2021-12-01 15:24   ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-02  4:09     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 12:51   ` Eric Auger
2021-12-04  4:35     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-07  9:36       ` Eric Auger
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64PFR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-21 12:37   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-24  6:11     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 15:35   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-30  1:29     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 13:02       ` Eric Auger
2021-12-04  7:59         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-07  9:42           ` Eric Auger
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64PFR1_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64ISAR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64MMFR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 15:31   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-30  4:43     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 16:06   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/29] KVM: arm64: Hide IMPLEMENTATION DEFINED PMU support for the guest Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 20:30   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-30  5:32     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-01 15:53       ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-01 16:09         ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-02  4:42           ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 10:57       ` Eric Auger
2021-12-04  1:04         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-04 14:14           ` Eric Auger
2021-12-04 17:39             ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-04 23:38               ` Itaru Kitayama
2021-12-06  0:27                 ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-06  9:52               ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-12-06 10:25                 ` Eric Auger
2021-12-07  7:07                   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-07  8:10                 ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_AA64DFR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 20:30   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-30  5:21     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_DFR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 13:46   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-25  5:33     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_DFR1_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-25 20:30   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-30  5:39     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-12-02 13:11       ` Eric Auger
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID_MMFR0_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/29] KVM: arm64: Make MVFR1_EL1 writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/29] KVM: arm64: Make ID registers without id_reg_info writable Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/29] KVM: arm64: Add consistency checking for frac fields of ID registers Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/29] KVM: arm64: Introduce KVM_CAP_ARM_ID_REG_CONFIGURABLE capability Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/29] KVM: arm64: Add kunit test for ID register validation Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/29] KVM: arm64: Use vcpu->arch cptr_el2 to track value of cptr_el2 for VHE Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/29] KVM: arm64: Use vcpu->arch.mdcr_el2 to track value of mdcr_el2 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/29] KVM: arm64: Introduce framework to trap disabled features Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-21 18:46   ` Marc Zyngier
2021-11-23  7:27     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/29] KVM: arm64: Trap disabled features of ID_AA64PFR0_EL1 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/29] KVM: arm64: Trap disabled features of ID_AA64PFR1_EL1 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/29] KVM: arm64: Trap disabled features of ID_AA64DFR0_EL1 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/29] KVM: arm64: Trap disabled features of ID_AA64MMFR1_EL1 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/29] KVM: arm64: Trap disabled features of ID_AA64ISAR1_EL1 Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/29] KVM: arm64: Initialize trapping of disabled CPU features for the guest Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 28/29] KVM: arm64: Add kunit test for trap initialization Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-17  6:43 ` [RFC PATCH v3 29/29] KVM: arm64: selftests: Introduce id_reg_test Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-18 20:34   ` Eric Auger
2021-11-20  6:39     ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-22 14:17       ` Eric Auger
2021-11-23  6:33         ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-23 16:00 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/29] KVM: arm64: Make CPU ID registers writable by userspace Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-24  5:13   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 10:50     ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-24 17:00       ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-23 16:27 ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-24  5:49   ` Reiji Watanabe
2021-11-24 10:48     ` Alexandru Elisei
2021-11-24 16:44       ` Reiji Watanabe

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