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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Like Xu <like.xu.linux@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Like Xu <likexu@tencent.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	David Dunn <daviddunn@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH kvm/queue v2 2/3] perf: x86/core: Add interface to query perfmon_event_map[] directly
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 14:35:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eRBOmwz=mspp0m5Q093K3rMUeAsF3vEL39MGV5Br9wEQQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220202144308.GB20638@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 6:43 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> Urgh... hate on kvm being a module again. We really need something like
> EXPORT_SYMBOL_KVM() or something.

Perhaps we should reconsider the current approach of treating the
guest as a client of the host perf subsystem via kvm as a proxy. There
are several drawbacks to the current approach:
1) If the guest actually sets the counter mask (and invert counter
mask) or edge detect in the event selector, we ignore it, because we
have no way of requesting that from perf.
2) If a system-wide pinned counter preempts one of kvm's thread-pinned
counters, we have no way of letting the guest know, because the
architectural specification doesn't allow counters to be suspended.
3) TDX is going to pull the rug out from under us anyway. When the TDX
module usurps control of the PMU, any active host counters are going
to stop counting. We are going to need a way of telling the host perf
subsystem what's happening, or other host perf clients are going to
get bogus data.

Given what's coming with TDX, I wonder if we should just bite the
bullet and cede the PMU to the guest while it's running, even for
non-TDX guests. That would solve (1) and (2) as well.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-02 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-17  8:53 [PATCH kvm/queue v2 0/3] KVM: x86/pmu: Fix out-of-date AMD amd_event_mapping[] Like Xu
2022-01-17  8:53 ` [PATCH kvm/queue v2 1/3] KVM: x86/pmu: Replace pmu->available_event_types with a new BITMAP Like Xu
2022-02-01 12:26   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-01-17  8:53 ` [PATCH kvm/queue v2 2/3] perf: x86/core: Add interface to query perfmon_event_map[] directly Like Xu
2022-02-01 12:27   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-02 14:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-02 22:35     ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2022-02-03 17:33       ` David Dunn
2022-02-09  8:10       ` KVM: x86: Reconsider the current approach of vPMU Like Xu
2022-02-09 13:33         ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-09 21:00           ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-10 12:08             ` Like Xu
2022-02-10 17:12               ` Sean Christopherson
2022-02-16  3:33                 ` Like Xu
2022-02-16 17:53                   ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-09 13:21       ` [PATCH kvm/queue v2 2/3] perf: x86/core: Add interface to query perfmon_event_map[] directly Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-09 15:40         ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-09 18:47           ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-09 18:57             ` Dave Hansen
2022-02-09 19:24               ` David Dunn
2022-02-10 13:29                 ` Like Xu
2022-02-10 15:34                 ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-10 16:34                   ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-10 18:30                     ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-10 19:16                       ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-10 19:46                         ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-10 19:55                           ` David Dunn
2022-02-11 14:11                             ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-11 18:08                               ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-11 21:47                                 ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-12 23:31                                   ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-14 21:55                                     ` Liang, Kan
2022-02-14 22:55                                       ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-16  7:36                                         ` Like Xu
2022-02-16 18:10                                           ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-16  7:30                           ` Like Xu
2022-02-16  5:08                   ` Like Xu
2022-02-10 12:55               ` Like Xu
2022-02-12 23:32               ` Jim Mattson
2022-02-08 11:52     ` Like Xu
2022-01-17  8:53 ` [PATCH kvm/queue v2 3/3] KVM: x86/pmu: Setup the {inte|amd}_event_mapping[] when hardware_setup Like Xu
2022-02-01 12:28   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-02-08 10:10     ` Like Xu
2022-01-26 11:22 ` [PATCH kvm/queue v2 0/3] KVM: x86/pmu: Fix out-of-date AMD amd_event_mapping[] Like Xu

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