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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	 Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 18/20] KVM: pfncache: check the need for invalidation under read lock first
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 20:47:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZcMLX5Omum3riZe8@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbd59a2c0897d8ca642ea8c4787b829190e75a4d.camel@infradead.org>

On Tue, Feb 06, 2024, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-02-06 at 20:22 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 15, 2024, Paul Durrant wrote:
> > > From: Paul Durrant <pdurrant@amazon.com>
> > > 
> > > Taking a write lock on a pfncache will be disruptive if the cache is
> > 
> > *Unnecessarily* taking a write lock.
> 
> No. Taking a write lock will be disrupting.
> 
> Unnecessarily taking a write lock will be unnecessarily disrupting.
> 
> Taking a write lock on a Thursday will be disrupting on a Thursday.
> 
> But the key is that if the cache is heavily used, the user gets
> disrupted.

If the invalidation is relevant, then this code is taking gpc->lock for write no
matter what.  The purpose of the changelog is to explain _why_ a patch adds value.

> >   Please save readers a bit of brain power
> > and explain that this is beneificial when there are _unrelated_ invalidation.
> 
> I don't understand what you're saying there. Paul's sentence did have
> an implicit "...so do that less then", but that didn't take much brain
> power to infer.

I'm saying this:

  When processing mmu_notifier invalidations for gpc caches, pre-check for
  overlap with the invalidation event while holding gpc->lock for read, and
  only take gpc->lock for write if the cache needs to be invalidated.  Doing
  a pre-check without taking gpc->lock for write avoids unnecessarily
  contending the lock for unrelated invalidations, which is very beneficial
  for caches that are heavily used (but rarely subjected to mmu_notifier
  invalidations).

is much friendlier to readers than this:

  Taking a write lock on a pfncache will be disruptive if the cache is
  heavily used (which only requires a read lock). Hence, in the MMU notifier
  callback, take read locks on caches to check for a match; only taking a
  write lock to actually perform an invalidation (after a another check).

Is it too much hand-holding, and bordering on stating the obvious?  Maybe.  But
(a) a lot of people that read mailing lists and KVM code are *not* kernel experts,
and (b) a changelog is written _once_, and read hundreds if not thousands of times.

If we can save each reader even a few seconds, then taking an extra minute or two
to write a more verbose changelog is a net win.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07  4:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 12:56 [PATCH v12 00/20] KVM: xen: update shared_info and vcpu_info handling Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 01/20] KVM: pfncache: Add a map helper function Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 02/20] KVM: pfncache: remove unnecessary exports Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 03/20] KVM: xen: mark guest pages dirty with the pfncache lock held Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  3:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  3:26     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-07 15:15       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:48     ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 04/20] KVM: pfncache: add a mark-dirty helper Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  3:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:47     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-09 15:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-09 16:05     ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 05/20] KVM: pfncache: remove KVM_GUEST_USES_PFN usage Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 06/20] KVM: pfncache: stop open-coding offset_in_page() Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 07/20] KVM: pfncache: include page offset in uhva and use it consistently Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 08/20] KVM: pfncache: allow a cache to be activated with a fixed (userspace) HVA Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:13     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-14 16:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-14 16:09         ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-14 15:21     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-14 16:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-14 16:33         ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 09/20] KVM: xen: separate initialization of shared_info cache and content Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 10/20] KVM: xen: re-initialize shared_info if guest (32/64-bit) mode is set Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 11/20] KVM: xen: allow shared_info to be mapped by fixed HVA Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:53     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08  8:52     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08 16:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-08 16:51         ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08 17:26           ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-09 16:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 12/20] KVM: xen: allow vcpu_info " Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 13/20] KVM: selftests / xen: map shared_info using HVA rather than GFN Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:54     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-07 14:58       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 14/20] KVM: selftests / xen: re-map vcpu_info using HVA rather than GPA Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 15/20] KVM: xen: advertize the KVM_XEN_HVM_CONFIG_SHARED_INFO_HVA capability Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 16/20] KVM: xen: split up kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 17/20] KVM: xen: don't block on pfncache locks in kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:21     ` David Woodhouse
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 18/20] KVM: pfncache: check the need for invalidation under read lock first Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:27     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-07  4:47       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-02-07  4:59         ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-07 15:10           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 19/20] KVM: xen: allow vcpu_info content to be 'safely' copied Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 20/20] KVM: pfncache: rework __kvm_gpc_refresh() to fix locking issues Paul Durrant
2024-01-25 15:03 ` [PATCH v12 00/20] KVM: xen: update shared_info and vcpu_info handling Paul Durrant
2024-01-25 20:07   ` David Woodhouse
2024-01-26  1:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-02 17:37     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-02 22:03       ` Sean Christopherson

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