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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	 Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 18/20] KVM: pfncache: check the need for invalidation under read lock first
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 20:59:26 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a817d64f3fe7b935a02e78df02dc0c6281e61af3.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZcMLX5Omum3riZe8@google.com>

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On Tue, 2024-02-06 at 20:47 -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> 
> I'm saying this:
> 
>   When processing mmu_notifier invalidations for gpc caches, pre-check for
>   overlap with the invalidation event while holding gpc->lock for read, and
>   only take gpc->lock for write if the cache needs to be invalidated.  Doing
>   a pre-check without taking gpc->lock for write avoids unnecessarily
>   contending the lock for unrelated invalidations, which is very beneficial
>   for caches that are heavily used (but rarely subjected to mmu_notifier
>   invalidations).
> 
> is much friendlier to readers than this:
> 
>   Taking a write lock on a pfncache will be disruptive if the cache is
>   heavily used (which only requires a read lock). Hence, in the MMU notifier
>   callback, take read locks on caches to check for a match; only taking a
>   write lock to actually perform an invalidation (after a another check).

That's a somewhat subjective observation. I actually find the latter to
be far more succinct and obvious.

Actually... maybe I find yours harder because it isn't actually stating
the situation as I understand it. You said "unrelated invalidation" in
your first email, and "overlap with the invalidation event" in this
one... neither of which makes sense to me because there is no *other*
invalidation here.

We're only talking about the MMU notifier gratuitously taking the write
lock on a GPC that it *isn't* going to invalidate (the common case),
and that disrupting users which are trying to take the read lock on
that GPC.

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-07  4:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-15 12:56 [PATCH v12 00/20] KVM: xen: update shared_info and vcpu_info handling Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 01/20] KVM: pfncache: Add a map helper function Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 02/20] KVM: pfncache: remove unnecessary exports Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 03/20] KVM: xen: mark guest pages dirty with the pfncache lock held Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  3:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  3:26     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-07 15:15       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:48     ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 04/20] KVM: pfncache: add a mark-dirty helper Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  3:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:47     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-09 15:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-09 16:05     ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 05/20] KVM: pfncache: remove KVM_GUEST_USES_PFN usage Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 06/20] KVM: pfncache: stop open-coding offset_in_page() Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 07/20] KVM: pfncache: include page offset in uhva and use it consistently Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 08/20] KVM: pfncache: allow a cache to be activated with a fixed (userspace) HVA Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:13     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-14 16:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-14 16:09         ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-14 15:21     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-14 16:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-14 16:33         ` Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 09/20] KVM: xen: separate initialization of shared_info cache and content Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 10/20] KVM: xen: re-initialize shared_info if guest (32/64-bit) mode is set Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 11/20] KVM: xen: allow shared_info to be mapped by fixed HVA Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:53     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08  8:52     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08 16:48       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-08 16:51         ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-08 17:26           ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-09 16:01             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:56 ` [PATCH v12 12/20] KVM: xen: allow vcpu_info " Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 13/20] KVM: selftests / xen: map shared_info using HVA rather than GFN Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:14   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  8:54     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-07 14:58       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 14/20] KVM: selftests / xen: re-map vcpu_info using HVA rather than GPA Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 15/20] KVM: xen: advertize the KVM_XEN_HVM_CONFIG_SHARED_INFO_HVA capability Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 16/20] KVM: xen: split up kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 17/20] KVM: xen: don't block on pfncache locks in kvm_xen_set_evtchn_fast() Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:21     ` David Woodhouse
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 18/20] KVM: pfncache: check the need for invalidation under read lock first Paul Durrant
2024-02-07  4:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:27     ` David Woodhouse
2024-02-07  4:47       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-07  4:59         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2024-02-07 15:10           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 19/20] KVM: xen: allow vcpu_info content to be 'safely' copied Paul Durrant
2024-01-15 12:57 ` [PATCH v12 20/20] KVM: pfncache: rework __kvm_gpc_refresh() to fix locking issues Paul Durrant
2024-01-25 15:03 ` [PATCH v12 00/20] KVM: xen: update shared_info and vcpu_info handling Paul Durrant
2024-01-25 20:07   ` David Woodhouse
2024-01-26  1:19   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-02 17:37     ` Paul Durrant
2024-02-02 22:03       ` Sean Christopherson

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