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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
	"H. J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	x32@buildd.debian.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Can we drop upstream Linux x32 support?
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:37:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87in00z6ux.fsf@oldenburg2.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70bb54b2-8ed3-b5ee-c02d-6ef66c4f27eb@physik.fu-berlin.de> (John Paul Adrian Glaubitz's message of "Tue, 11 Dec 2018 11:29:14 +0100")

* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz:

> As for the enterprise support, this seems to be correct. I don't know
> of any enterprise distribution with x32 support either.

Me neither.  I would expect a pure userspace port, with limitations in
what ioctls you can use, and perhaps support from GCC to share more APIs
with the kernel.

(I do not know of any plans to work on this.)

> I'm not terribly opposed to this change. I'm usually for keeping support
> for things that people are using, but the maintenance is a huge burden
> to upstream projects, I'm fine with letting it go.

Thank you for sharing your perspective.

> If x32 is eventually to be removed, we should also take care of removing
> x32 support from userland code. From the top of my head, this would at least
> concern:
>
>  * OpenJDK

Note that OpenJDK (well, Hotspot) has its own 32-bit pointer support for
the Java heap (compressed oops), so only the native code parts (and JNI)
benefit from x32 anyway.

Thanks,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-11 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-11  1:23 Can we drop upstream Linux x32 support? Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11  1:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-11  2:22   ` hpa
2018-12-11  8:16   ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-11 21:53   ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:22     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11 23:35       ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:55         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-12  2:24         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12  2:33           ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-12  9:04             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-12 18:14               ` Joseph Myers
2018-12-12 18:50                 ` Ivan Ivanov
2018-12-12 19:12                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 19:18                     ` Ivan Ivanov
2018-12-12 16:39             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-12 16:52               ` Rich Felker
2018-12-12 18:03                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-13 12:40                   ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-13 15:57                     ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 16:04                       ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-13 16:28                         ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 11:42                           ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-14 16:13                             ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13 18:42                         ` Joseph Myers
2018-12-15  4:53               ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:38       ` Rich Felker
2018-12-11 23:40     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2018-12-13 14:38   ` Olof Johansson
2018-12-13 15:46     ` Lance Richardson
2018-12-13 16:11   ` Richard Purdie
2018-12-11  3:14 ` H.J. Lu
2018-12-11  5:35   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-11  9:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-11 11:32       ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-11 11:37         ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-11 11:52           ` Catalin Marinas
2018-12-11  5:46 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-11 10:29 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-12-11 10:37   ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2018-12-11 10:44     ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2018-12-11 21:59   ` Thorsten Glaser
2018-12-11 23:33     ` Rich Felker
2018-12-13  5:03   ` Kevin Easton
2018-12-13  9:05     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-12-13 12:12       ` Kevin Easton
2018-12-14 14:38       ` David Laight
2018-12-14 15:17         ` Richard Weinberger
2018-12-13 16:02   ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 14:13     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-12-14 16:17       ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 16:29         ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2018-12-14 16:38         ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-14 16:55           ` Rich Felker
2018-12-14 18:58             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 19:59               ` Lance Richardson
2018-12-14 20:13               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-12-14 21:27                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 21:16 ` Thomas Schöbel-Theuer
2018-12-14 21:24   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-14 21:41     ` Thomas Schöbel-Theuer
2018-12-15  7:41       ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2018-12-15 15:30         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-01-09 12:41   ` Florian Weimer
2019-01-09 16:02     ` Rich Felker
2019-01-22 13:34   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

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