From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Jacob Bramley <jacob.bramley@arm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Adam Wallis <awallis@codeaurora.org>,
Kristina Martsenko <kristina.martsenko@arm.com>,
gorcunov@openvz.org,
Ramana Radhakrishnan <ramana.radhakrishnan@arm.com>,
Amit Kachhap <Amit.Kachhap@arm.com>,
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linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/17] arm64: add basic pointer authentication support
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2018 10:25:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181115102537.GL3505@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181114181138.GB2580@brain-police>
On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 06:11:39PM +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
[...]
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 12:24:04PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
[...]
> > FWIW: I think we should be entertaining a prctl() interface to use a new
> > key on a per-thread basis. Obviously, this would need to be used with care
> > (e.g. you'd fork(); use the prctl() and then you'd better not return from
> > the calling function!).
> >
> > Assuming we want this (Kees -- I was under the impression that everything in
> > Android would end up with the same key otherwise?), then the question is
> > do we want:
> >
> > - prctl() get/set operations for the key, or
> > - prctl() set_random_key operation, or
> > - both of the above?
> >
> > Part of the answer to that may lie in the requirements of CRIU, where I
> > strongly suspect they need explicit get/set operations, although these
> > could be gated on CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE=y.
>
> I managed to speak to the CRIU developers at LPC. The good news is that
> their preference is for a ptrace()-based interface for getting and setting
> the keys, so the only prctl() operation we need is to set a random key
> (separately for A and B).
That's good if it works for them, and it seems the cleaner approach.
_If_ they run the new thread up to a checkpoint, restoring the memory
and doing all the setup that requires in-thread syscalls, then stop it
in ptrace to finally inject the regs, then it makes sense to set the
keys at that stop -- i.e., you set the keys atomically* with the final
setting of the thread's PC.
(* with respect to the target thread)
So long as you're confident they've understood the implications of
ptrauth for CRIU, I guess this can work.
(In other news, they will also need to do some work to support SVE, but
that's unrelated to ptrauth.)
Cheers
---Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-15 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-05 8:47 [PATCH 00/17] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication support Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 01/17] arm64: add pointer authentication register bits Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 16:28 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-11 16:28 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-12 8:53 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-12 8:53 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-12 8:56 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-12 8:56 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-12 9:50 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-12 9:50 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 02/17] arm64/kvm: consistently handle host HCR_EL2 flags Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 03/17] arm64/kvm: hide ptrauth from guests Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 04/17] arm64: Don't trap host pointer auth use to EL2 Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 05/17] arm64/cpufeature: detect pointer authentication Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 06/17] asm-generic: mm_hooks: allow hooks to be overridden individually Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 07/17] arm64: add basic pointer authentication support Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 16:00 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-10-11 16:00 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2018-10-19 11:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:15 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:24 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 11:24 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 15:36 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 15:36 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 15:49 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 15:49 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 16:05 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 16:05 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 16:16 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 16:16 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 15:54 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-19 15:54 ` Mark Rutland
2018-10-19 16:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-10-19 16:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-11-14 18:11 ` Will Deacon
2018-11-14 18:11 ` Will Deacon
2018-11-15 10:25 ` Dave Martin [this message]
2018-11-15 10:25 ` Dave Martin
2018-10-23 8:36 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-23 8:36 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-23 10:20 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-23 10:20 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 08/17] arm64: expose user PAC bit positions via ptrace Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 09/17] arm64: perf: strip PAC when unwinding userspace Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 10/17] arm64: enable pointer authentication Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [PATCH v5 11/17] arm64: docs: document " Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 9:04 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-05 9:04 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-16 16:14 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-16 16:14 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 11:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:47 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-10-19 11:47 ` Marc Zyngier
2018-10-19 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 12:22 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 14:42 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 14:42 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 15:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 15:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 17:45 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 17:45 ` Will Deacon
2018-11-02 6:02 ` Jon Masters
2018-11-02 6:02 ` Jon Masters
2018-10-24 10:56 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-24 10:56 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-15 22:35 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-15 22:35 ` Kees Cook
2018-11-02 9:46 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-11-02 9:46 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 12/17] arm64: move ptrauth keys to thread_info Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-19 11:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-19 11:38 ` Catalin Marinas
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 13/17] arm64: install user ptrauth keys at kernel exit time Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 14/17] arm64: unwind: strip PAC from kernel addresses Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 15/17] arm64: enable ptrauth earlier Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-06 12:51 ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-06 12:51 ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 16/17] arm64: initialize and switch ptrauth kernel keys Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-06 12:56 ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-06 12:56 ` Amit Kachhap
2018-10-05 8:47 ` [RFC 17/17] arm64: compile the kernel with ptrauth -msign-return-address Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 8:47 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-05 9:01 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-05 9:01 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-11 14:00 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 14:00 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-10-11 14:23 ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-10-11 14:23 ` Vladimir Murzin
2018-10-15 22:38 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-15 22:38 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-15 22:42 ` [PATCH 00/17] ARMv8.3 pointer authentication support Kees Cook
2018-10-15 22:42 ` Kees Cook
2018-11-13 16:17 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-11-13 16:17 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-11-13 23:09 ` Kees Cook
2018-11-13 23:09 ` Kees Cook
2018-11-14 15:54 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-11-14 15:54 ` Kristina Martsenko
2018-11-14 21:47 ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-14 21:47 ` Mark Rutland
2018-11-14 22:48 ` Kees Cook
2018-11-14 22:48 ` Kees Cook
2018-10-19 12:36 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-19 12:36 ` Will Deacon
2018-10-23 8:39 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-10-23 8:39 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
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