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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Dave P Martin <dave.martin@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
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	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
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	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
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	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] arm64: lto: Strengthen READ_ONCE() to acquire when CLANG_LTO=y
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:23:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200702072301.GA15963@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200701170722.4rte5ssnmrn2uqzg@bakewell.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 06:07:25PM +0100, Dave P Martin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 06:37:34PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > When building with LTO, there is an increased risk of the compiler
> > converting an address dependency headed by a READ_ONCE() invocation
> > into a control dependency and consequently allowing for harmful
> > reordering by the CPU.
> > 
> > Ensure that such transformations are harmless by overriding the generic
> > READ_ONCE() definition with one that provides acquire semantics when
> > building with LTO.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h   | 63 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  arch/arm64/kernel/vdso/Makefile   |  2 +-
> >  arch/arm64/kernel/vdso32/Makefile |  2 +-
> >  3 files changed, 65 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >  create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..515e360b01a1
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rwonce.h
> > @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
> > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
> > +/*
> > + * Copyright (C) 2020 Google LLC.
> > + */
> > +#ifndef __ASM_RWONCE_H
> > +#define __ASM_RWONCE_H
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_CLANG_LTO
> 
> Don't we have a generic option for LTO that's not specific to Clang.

/me looks at the LTO series some more

Oh yeah, there's CONFIG_LTO which is selected by CONFIG_LTO_CLANG, which is
the non-typoed version of the above. I can switch this to CONFIG_LTO.

> Also, can you illustrate code that can only be unsafe with Clang LTO?

I don't have a concrete example, but it's an ongoing concern over on the LTO
thread [1], so I cooked this to show one way we could deal with it. The main
concern is that the whole-program optimisations enabled by LTO may allow the
compiler to enumerate possible values for a pointer at link time and replace
an address dependency between two loads with a control dependency instead,
defeating the dependency ordering within the CPU.

We likely won't realise if/when this goes wrong, other than impossible to
debug, subtle breakage that crops up seemingly randomly. Ideally, we'd be
able to detect this sort of thing happening at build time, and perhaps
even prevent it with compiler options or annotations, but none of that is
close to being available and I'm keen to progress the LTO patches in the
meantime because they are a requirement for CFI.

Will

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20200624203200.78870-1-samitolvanen@google.com

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Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-30 17:37 [PATCH 00/18] Allow architectures to override __READ_ONCE() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 01/18] tools: bpf: Use local copy of headers including uapi/linux/filter.h Will Deacon
2020-07-01 16:38   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ, WRITE}_ONCE definitions out into rwonce.h Will Deacon
2020-06-30 19:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-01 10:16     ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ,WRITE}_ONCE " Will Deacon
2020-07-01 11:33       ` [PATCH 02/18] compiler.h: Split {READ, WRITE}_ONCE " Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 03/18] asm/rwonce: Allow __READ_ONCE to be overridden by the architecture Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 04/18] alpha: Override READ_ONCE() with barriered implementation Will Deacon
2020-07-02  9:32   ` Mark Rutland
2020-07-02  9:48     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-02 10:08       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-02 11:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-07-02 11:39           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-02 14:43   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-07-02 14:55     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-02 15:07       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 05/18] asm/rwonce: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() invocation Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 06/18] vhost: Remove redundant use of read_barrier_depends() barrier Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 07/18] alpha: Replace smp_read_barrier_depends() usage with smp_[r]mb() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 08/18] locking/barriers: Remove definitions for [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 09/18] Documentation/barriers: Remove references to [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 10/18] Documentation/barriers/kokr: " Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 11/18] tools/memory-model: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from informal doc Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 12/18] include/linux: Remove smp_read_barrier_depends() from comments Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 13/18] checkpatch: Remove checks relating to [smp_]read_barrier_depends() Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 14/18] arm64: Reduce the number of header files pulled into vmlinux.lds.S Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 15/18] arm64: alternatives: Split up alternative.h Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: cpufeatures: Add capability for LDAPR instruction Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64: alternatives: Remove READ_ONCE() usage during patch operation Will Deacon
2020-06-30 17:37 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64: lto: Strengthen READ_ONCE() to acquire when CLANG_LTO=y Will Deacon
2020-06-30 19:25   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-07-01 10:19     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 10:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-06-30 19:47   ` Marco Elver
2020-06-30 20:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-30 22:57     ` Sami Tolvanen
2020-07-01 10:25       ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 10:24     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-01 17:07   ` Dave P Martin
2020-07-02  7:23     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-07-06 16:00       ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 16:34         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 17:05           ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 17:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-07 10:29               ` Dave Martin
2020-07-07 22:51                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-07 23:01                   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-07-08  7:15                     ` Marco Elver
2020-07-08  9:16                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-08 18:20                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 18:35         ` Will Deacon
2020-07-06 19:23           ` Marco Elver
2020-07-06 19:42             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-07-06 16:08   ` Dave Martin
2020-07-06 18:35     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-07 10:10       ` Dave Martin
2020-07-01  7:38 ` [PATCH 00/18] Allow architectures to override __READ_ONCE() Josh Triplett

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