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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 09/41] drm/connector: Add TV standard property
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 14:11:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220907121124.kda7wi33b5cmwhcr@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU_yfr1ybNM9Dyk6n34Cqv5WJv1wZxQ_ZGJ_T8JCOeB2g@mail.gmail.com>


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On Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 09:35:20AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 12:00 AM Mateusz Kwiatkowski <kfyatek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > W dniu 29.08.2022 o 15:11, Maxime Ripard pisze:
> > > The TV mode property has been around for a while now to select and get the
> > > current TV mode output on an analog TV connector.
> > >
> > > Despite that property name being generic, its content isn't and has been
> > > driver-specific which makes it hard to build any generic behaviour on top
> > > of it, both in kernel and user-space.
> > >
> > > Let's create a new bitmask tv norm property, that can contain any of the
> > > analog TV standards currently supported by kernel drivers. Each driver can
> > > then pass in a bitmask of the modes it supports.
> >
> > This is not a bitmask property anymore, you've just changed it to an enum.
> > The commit message is now misleading.
> >
> > > +static const struct drm_prop_enum_list drm_tv_mode_enum_list[] = {
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_NTSC_443, "NTSC-443" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_NTSC_J, "NTSC-J" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_NTSC_M, "NTSC-M" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_60, "PAL-60" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_B, "PAL-B" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_D, "PAL-D" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_G, "PAL-G" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_H, "PAL-H" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_I, "PAL-I" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_M, "PAL-M" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_N, "PAL-N" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_PAL_NC, "PAL-Nc" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_60, "SECAM-60" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_B, "SECAM-B" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_D, "SECAM-D" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_G, "SECAM-G" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_K, "SECAM-K" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_K1, "SECAM-K1" },
> > > +    { DRM_MODE_TV_MODE_SECAM_L, "SECAM-L" },
> > > +};
> >
> > I did not comment on it the last time, but this list looks a little bit random.
> >
> > Compared to the standards defined by V4L2, you also define SECAM-60 (a good
> > thing to define, because why not), but don't define PAL-B1, PAL-D1, PAL-K,
> > SECAM-H, SECAM-LC (whatever that is - probably just another name for SECAM-L,
> > see my comment about PAL-Nc below), or NTSC-M-KR (a Korean variant of NTSC).
> >
> > Like I mentioned previously, I'm personally not a fan of including all those
> > CCIR/ITU system variants, as they don't mean any difference to the output unless
> > there is an RF modulator involved. But I get it that they have already been used
> > and regressing probably wouldn't be a very good idea. But in that case keeping
> > it consistent with the set of values used by V4L2 would be wise, I think.
> 
> Exactly. Anything outputting RGB (e.g. through a SCART or VGA connector)
> doesn't care about the color subcarrier or modulator parts.  Likewise,
> anything outputting CVBS doesn't care about the modulator part.
> 
> Perhaps "generic" variants of NSTC and PAL/SECAM should be added, which
> would really just mean 525/60 resp. 625/50.
> 
> Alternatively, the tv_mode field could be split in two parts (either
> two separate fields, or bitwise), to maintain a clear separation between
> lines/fields versus color encoding and RF modulation (with zero for the
> latter meaning a generic version)? That would also keep the door open
> for TV_MODE_405_50, TV_MODE_819_50, TV_MODE_750_50, TV_MODE_750_60, ...

Again, that property is only about color encoding and RF modulation. The
lines numbers and whether it's interlaced or not is encoded in the mode,
not here. So what you suggest is totally doable today.

Maxime

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2022-08-29 13:11 [PATCH v2 00/41] drm: Analog TV Improvements Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 01/41] drm/tests: Order Kunit tests in Makefile Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 18:46   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 19:02     ` Konstantin Ryabitsev
2022-08-30  8:30       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 02/41] drm/tests: Add Kunit Helpers Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 03/41] drm/atomic-helper: Rename drm_atomic_helper_connector_tv_reset to avoid ambiguity Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 04/41] drm/connector: Rename subconnector state variable Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 05/41] drm/atomic: Add TV subconnector property to get/set_property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 06/41] drm/connector: Rename legacy TV property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 19:27   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 07/41] drm/connector: Only register TV mode property if present Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 08/41] drm/connector: Rename drm_mode_create_tv_properties Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 09/41] drm/connector: Add TV standard property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-01 22:00   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-02  7:35     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-07 12:11       ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2022-09-07 12:10     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07 19:52       ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-09  9:46         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-11  4:32           ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-05 10:18   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 10/41] drm/modes: Add a function to generate analog display modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 13:01   ` Maíra Canal
2022-09-08 11:10     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-31  1:44   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-31  8:14     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-09-05 13:32       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-05 16:32         ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-07 14:38           ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-05 13:37     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-05 16:44       ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-07 14:34         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07 21:31           ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-09 13:54             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-11  4:48               ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-11  4:51                 ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-21 15:05                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-09 14:00             ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-11  4:30               ` kFYatek
2022-09-21 14:26                 ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-01 19:09   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 11/41] drm/modes: Only consider bpp and refresh before options Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 12/41] drm/modes: parse_cmdline: Add support for named modes containing dashes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 13/41] drm/client: Add some tests for drm_connector_pick_cmdline_mode() Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 14/41] drm/modes: Move named modes parsing to a separate function Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 10:06   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-08-30 10:43     ` Jani Nikula
2022-08-30 12:03       ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 13:36         ` Jani Nikula
2022-09-07  8:39           ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 15/41] drm/modes: Switch to named mode descriptors Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 16/41] drm/modes: Fill drm_cmdline mode from named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 17/41] drm/connector: Add pixel clock to cmdline mode Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 18/41] drm/connector: Add a function to lookup a TV mode by its name Maxime Ripard
2022-08-31 19:14   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 19/41] drm/modes: Introduce the tv_mode property as a command-line option Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 12:34   ` Maíra Canal
2022-08-30 12:44   ` Maíra Canal
2022-09-01 22:46   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-05 14:28     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 20/41] drm/modes: Properly generate a drm_display_mode from a named mode Maxime Ripard
2022-09-01 22:52   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 21/41] drm/modes: Introduce more named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 22/41] drm/atomic-helper: Add a TV properties reset helper Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 18:40   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 23/41] drm/atomic-helper: Add an analog TV atomic_check implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 18:49   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 24/41] drm/vc4: vec: Remove empty mode_fixup Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 15:23   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  8:34   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 25/41] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to atomic helpers Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 15:24   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 26/41] drm/vc4: vec: Refactor VEC TV mode setting Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 15:29   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 27/41] drm/vc4: vec: Remove redundant atomic_mode_set Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 15:45   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 28/41] drm/vc4: vec: Fix timings for VEC modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 18:20   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 29/41] drm/vc4: vec: Switch for common modes Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 18:36   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 30/41] drm/vc4: vec: Fix definition of PAL-M mode Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 31/41] drm/vc4: vec: Use TV Reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 18:51   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 32/41] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-08-30 19:01   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-08 11:23     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-08 11:31       ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-08 12:16         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-08 11:34       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-08-31  2:23   ` Mateusz Kwiatkowski
2022-09-08 13:18     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 33/41] drm/vc4: vec: Add support for more analog TV standards Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 34/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove unused mode_valid Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 35/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Convert to atomic hooks Maxime Ripard
2022-09-06 20:02   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 36/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Merge mode_set into atomic_enable Maxime Ripard
2022-09-06 20:04   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-07  7:41     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07 15:09       ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-08 14:02   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 37/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove useless function Maxime Ripard
2022-09-06 20:06   ` Jernej Škrabec
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 38/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Remove useless destroy function Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 39/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Rename error label Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 40/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Add missing reset assertion Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07  8:35   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-08-29 13:11 ` [PATCH v2 41/41] drm/sun4i: tv: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-01 19:35 ` [PATCH v2 00/41] drm: Analog TV Improvements Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-02 11:28   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-05 14:57     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-05 15:17       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07  9:58         ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-07 10:56           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-07 10:36       ` Stefan Wahren
2022-09-07 16:44         ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-10 15:34           ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-21 14:03           ` Maxime Ripard
2022-09-24 15:33             ` Noralf Trønnes

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